"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Hello! I could use some help from a few DJ'S

falconslax89

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Hey guys, Ive been reading this site for probably a good two weeks now and its incredible. so glad i ran across it however i did. its changed the whole way i see getting girls. anyway it came at a good time..for about the past week ive been interested in this girl, and i dont want to screw things up, so let me tell you about it so i can try to get some feedback...

first of all ive never had a problem attracting girls. im a good looking guy, im 20 years old, i go to college, drive a nice car, try to dress well etc im 6'2 170 etc...it seems my problem is hanging on to girls once they are initially attracted and taking it to the next step. after reading the site its become obvious that the reason is im a nice guy. i go out of my way to make girls happy..i buy them things, take them out to eat, do what they want when they want.it goes well for a little while but then they generally lose interest. on the other hand, the girls i am not interested in...the ones i just want to be friends with cant get enough of me. its because im doing everything to these girls that i should be doing to the ones i want. i make fun of them, blow them off, treat them likes guys, swear around them, make them buy me things...i should have realized it before but apparently im just retarded. i figured it was because these girls just arent as attractive, when really some of the girls i did this to were far better looking then the ones i was actually attracted and so nice and wimpy to.

anyway, theres a new girl in the picture.
the other night, maybe a week ago, this girl i had only met once sent me a message on facebook asking if i was going to my ex girlfriends party. we talked for a long time, actually a couple hours because i thought this girl had a boyfriend, so i was just chatting her up like anyone else. when we were done talking we somehow got on the subject of her boyfriend..who i found out she had dumped a few days before. as soon as i found this out my initiative totally changed because i had always thought this girl was very pretty and she is also genuinly a sweet girl...ive heard it from many people..shes basically dream girl status is what im sayin.
anyway she says she wants to go to that party but doesnt know anyone and gives me her number. the next day i text her ...we dont go to that party but i end up meeting up with her and her cousin. we go over to a mutual friends house because she wants to drink and we couldnt find a good party. we hangout for awhile, i get good vibes. we talk a lot, i joke around with her and bust her balls about her drink making skills then her super nintendo playing skills and whatever else. we sit close together and i throw down some kino moves. i also flirt with her cousin a little bit. so her cousin leaves and we leave in my car. we have nothing to do and somehow weed gets brought up and she mentions how she "loves to smoke." so i call my friend who is really into that and we meet up with him...we end up smoking obviously way more then she ever has before and by the end of the night are both having a fun time laughing and everything. i take her home around 2 am but she stalls in my car for about 45 minutes not wanting to go inside her house. i finally persuad her to go in...(usually i would have tried to make a move in this situation but we were both stoned as hell and i just wanted to go to bed.) so i leave and the next day she texts me around like 2pm asking if im ok? of course im ok. so she invites me to this random girl who i barely knows birthday party. its a party with all her friends she graduated with and i know like nobody..its kinda awkward. so i play a few games of beer pong and finally i decide im just gonna leave. i tell her im leaving to meet one of my friends who just got back into town from school but its obvious im just leaving because i wasnt having a good time. she was *****ing about her ex but still giving me attention throughout the night, obviously trying to make me feel comfortable. and constantly apologizing..still it just wasnt a fun time. i leave and go meet up with this other girl who i am friends with and have been for awhile. well girl number 1 starts texting me about 45 mins later"you left me.." "brettttt!!" and that **** and i just dont reply. girl number 2 gets my phone and texts girl number 1"**** and balls ;)" (which i was drunk by this time and didnt really care) girl 1 replied "wow!" and we didnt talk the rest of the night. the next day i text her acting like nothing happened and i asked her if she wanted to hang out later. she said she had a bad night and we would have to do it another time. so i said ok. she text me like a day or 2 later asking when we were going to hang out. i told her that i had just offered the other day. she said she was feeling better and could hangout whenever now. i didnt text her for a day or two but i did today. i casually text her 'yo, whats up' and asked what she was doing tonight. she said she didnt know but if i found anything or just wanted to hang out to let her know and has repeatedly asked me what i was doing since then.

that is as far as this has gone. no kissing or anything else yet. i would normally let it progress more before i asked for any help,but i dont want to mess things up..and just get it right the first time. this girl obviously has interest in me. any pointers on what my next plan of action should be..am i giving this girl too much attention?not enough? help from some true DJ's would be greatly appreciated!
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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First of all, free free to hit the "Enter" key once in a while. Seriously, in the future, please post paragraphs instead of run on ramblings; that is , if you want to get more and better responses from the best posters here. Make it easy for people to want to go through your entire post and help you out.

falconslax89 said:
first of all ive never had a problem attracting girls. im a good looking guy, im 20 years old, i go to college, drive a nice car, try to dress well etc im 6'2 170 etc...it seems my problem is hanging on to girls once they are initially attracted and taking it to the next step. after reading the site its become obvious that the reason is im a nice guy. i go out of my way to make girls happy..i buy them things, take them out to eat, do what they want when they want.it goes well for a little while but then they generally lose interest.
You recognize where you went wrong, yet you are still being too accomodating. Read below.


falconslax89 said:
i had always thought this girl was very pretty and she is also genuinly a sweet girl...ive heard it from many people..shes basically dream girl status is what im sayin.
Dream girl status? YOu mean, as in "one of a kind"? As in, one-itis? You don't even know her that well yet, and you've promoted her to the highest position possible.

falconslax89 said:
anyway she says she wants to go to that party but doesnt know anyone and gives me her number. the next day i text her ...we dont go to that party but i end up meeting up with her and her cousin.
Good, you got together. She's interested.

falconslax89 said:
we go over to a mutual friends house because she wants to drink and we couldnt find a good party. we hangout for awhile, i get good vibes. we talk a lot, i joke around with her and bust her balls about her drink making skills then her super nintendo playing skills and whatever else. we sit close together and i throw down some kino moves. i also flirt with her cousin a little bit. so her cousin leaves and we leave in my car.
She wants to drink, you coply. She wants to smoke, you comply. The princess wants/needs/asks for something, you are there, giving her what she wants, when she wants it. Why? Because this one's special.


falconslax89 said:
we have nothing to do and somehow weed gets brought up and she mentions how she "loves to smoke." so i call my friend who is really into that and we meet up with him...we end up smoking obviously way more then she ever has before and by the end of the night are both having a fun time laughing and everything.
She snaps her finger indicating she wants something, and there you go getting it for her. Who paid for that weed? Either way, you hooked her up with it.

You are still doing what you mentioned at the beggining of your post. Has she or any other broad you've liked ever done anything to earn your loyalty and generosity?


falconslax89 said:
i take her home around 2 am but she stalls in my car for about 45 minutes not wanting to go inside her house. i finally persuad her to go in...(usually i would have tried to make a move in this situation but we were both stoned as hell and i just wanted to go to bed.)
Now that was a very bad move that might cost you this whole interaction with this one. You are the man and you are the one who's supposed to make every move to escalate. No kiss? She wanted or was inviting you to go for a lot more than a kiss. You persuased her to what? What did you do that for? Don't be surprised if she starts going cold on you very soon. She either thinks you don't like her, you don't get it (that she's throwing herself at you),or you don't have the balls to escalate. None of those possibilities are good.

falconslax89 said:
she said she didnt know but if i found anything or just wanted to hang out to let her know and has repeatedly asked me what i was doing since then.
You better get her alone soon, and start getting physical. You are lucky she says she is still open to seeing you more.

falconslax89 said:
that is as far as this has gone. no kissing or anything else yet. i would normally let it progress more before i asked for any help,but i dont want to mess things up..and just get it right the first time. this girl obviously has interest in me. any pointers on what my next plan of action should be..am i giving this girl too much attention?not enough? help from some true DJ's would be greatly appreciated!
YOu know what your next plan of action is. ANY kind of action. How many hours have you spent with her, without attempting at least a kiss? By not trying to mess things up, you are being very passive, and in turn, messing things up. This comes mostly from your "this one's special" type of attitude regarding her.

Time for action. He who hessitates, masturbates!!!

Keep up posted.
 

falconslax89

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you are right...thanks for the input. i need to take her off the pedestal. and sorry about the run-ons, i was just in a hurry. ill keep you updated.
 
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