"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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I've been a student of Mystery Method and Double Your Dating for quite some time now. I've been on sarges with Style, Mystery, David DeAngelo, Tyler Durden, and Grimble to name a few. I'm looking for some experienced PUAs on here to bounce some field theories off of and wouldn't mind hearing some of your successes as well.

-Yours Truly,

Debonair_5
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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There seems to be a pungent aroma of bullsh!t in this thread.

The only thing David Deangelo sarges are the wallets and credit cards of guys who post they've sarged with him.
 

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With all due respect, I didn't intend to post who I've worked with self-adulation or adoration. I am simply developing rapport and familiarity amongst the community. As for your statement of David DeAngelo, I respect your opinion. I however wish to keep my opinions of each to myself. At any rate I do believe each skill-set has benefits.
 

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Debonair_5 said:
With all due respect, I didn't intend to post who I've worked with self-adulation or adoration.
Again this reeks of more stank. You fully intended to name drop to try and give yourself some psuedo-internet clout.

It's working wonders isn't it?

I've been in this game long enough to know who's an attention seeking douche and who genuinely wants to learn, from like-minded men, lessons he will internalize for the rest of his life then pass those lessons on to another Brother in need.

Guess which you've already admitted to being?
 

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Interestingly, I have not set a word against you yet you resent me. The better question is what category do you fall under?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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And since you have been in this game so long then you would know that you're playing the seeming role of an AMOG and looking like a total tool right now.
 

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who cares if hes actually been winging with mystery and others... That doesnt matter...

what matters is that hes here to share his information and bounce ideas with other people ....

Welcome to the boards dood dont worry about the haters.
 

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Prodigy746 said:
who cares if hes actually been winging with mystery and others... That doesnt matter...

what matters is that hes here to share his information and bounce ideas with other people ....

Welcome to the boards dood dont worry about the haters.
Thanks Prodigy. With all sincerity I do what to become a better man as do all of us. I think we can all agree that this is more than just picking up women but as always reminded...about creating a life.
 

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stop writing and get outside. there are b1tches everywhere and only way you meet them is by talking to them first. you're a man, stop reading theories and bs go up and talk to them like a man!

btw, all the products, especially Deangelo b/c i bought his, is a BS. i mean it's okay to read 1 ebook, b/c that says all about dating, but don't buy dvd and audio sh1t like that. the only way you get women is by going out there and fvcking deangelo's cd or dvd is not going to help you. plus that piece of sh1t doesn't even reply to questions. he is too commercialized and turned into money growling fvck, not a genuine helper. i don't know about others, but i believe they are the same
 

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Debonair_5 said:
Thanks Prodigy. With all sincerity I do what to become a better man as do all of us. I think we can all agree that this is more than just picking up women but as always reminded...about creating a life.

Young Brother, this is how you should have started this thread. Don't name drop for any bullsh!t phony "homie cred". Pick-up arts and Seductionism are shortcuts at best. To become your masculine whole it's imperative you walk the long road.

Now, what can I do to help get you where you need to go?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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