"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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So I took this HB7 out for drinks and food tonight and there was alot of Kino and kissing so I took her home and when we got upstairs we went straight to my room, I went easy kino and sexual talk when out of the sudden she asks "Are you trying to fvck me tonight, because it wont happen"

I was stunned.

WTF BlTCH

I told her so why are you up here, she answered she was curious to see where I was going with this and to see if I was like every guy trying to get azz.

Fvcking tests.

I was so pissed at this bltch, she wanted to sleep over on my couch because it was bad weather outside, I kicked her out. :cool:

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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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When a woman says you will not have sex, you usually have a good chance of f'ing. You just have to play your cards right. Play it cool.
 

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Oh no my friend I knew this broad was serious, she started complaining about how guys are pigs and liars and only want one thing, she told me she was effin testing me. I have no time to listen to her shlt, just GTFO
 

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React to what they do, not what they say. She responded favorably to your touch and followed you to the bedroom. Her mouth was just putting up a last-minute defense with whatever crap-for-knowledge she got from Hella Degenerate or Okra. You could have just said "yeah men are pigs and I usually never do this but somehow you're special and I can't resist you and yadda yadda yadda" and start kissing a sensitive place like her neck. Note for next time: full belly makes them tired and mentally sluggish, and any small amount of alcohol works wonders at relaxing them.
 
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I would also agree that Alcohol is my most trusted wingman. He fell on the grenade for me many times and I have done the same for him.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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While I sort of agreeing with the replies that girls can put up token resistance, I don't think this girl was giving token resistance but was serious.

I've been running into this problem the past several months. I've noticed girls would come back to my place or hers (an unstated agreement for sex) but not get sexual. I could almost swear girls are playing new extreme bs games that they didn't use to play.
 

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Trust me fellas the alcohol part was covered, she made a mixed drink at my apartment because I told her I could make a better and stronger drink than her.

At the point where she started to complain about her dates and how they wanted sex I was turned off. Now my next decision is do I let a prude chick sleep over at my bachelor pad or do I leave this nutcase to Joe? I made my decision.
 
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bravo OP. Bravo.

When you said that, you basically agreed that yep, I'm only here for one thing. You ruin all elements of anticipation by overtly communicating you want secks.
lol they were in his ****ing bed. you don't think she knew this already? you think she thought they were going to break out a friendly game of Monopoly?


But more than anything, she complelty ruined the mood. Even if it was a **** test, the ****ty nature of the **** test is a complete turn off. call me whatever but tend to be a tad romantic and after a good date and the chemistry is going and i'm into her the last thing i want to do with is a ****ty **** test.

but more so than all that, you have a ****ing backbone and standards. you aren't that petty and refuse to deal with petty woman. it's not the point that you did not have sex i think you were fine with that. but the petty nature she tried to lead you own, is not to be tolerated.


bravo
 

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First date, and I lay girls on the first date. It's not my say if they have sex with someone else, ( which they probably are ) and in doofuses case I dont think she does.

Another point fellas.

When I called her ass out for shlt testing me, her demeanor changed dramatically, explaining how she doesn't do this all the time and stumbling upon her words (at this time I was having fun with her), I even said this:

"Hah, I love learning from chicks like you."

Which of course her brain couldn't comprehend what I meant by that.

Am I going to text her? Nope, am I going to next her? Nope.
I think she'll now want to fvck my brains out to be honest with you.
 

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Like I said, she knew why she was there, as did OP. They were going to have secks. All you have to do is play the game a little bit, and not be butthurt because some girl isn't OK with being considered a slvt.
Come on bro, first date at his house up in the bedroom? Am I missing something here?

Hell, I almost want my women to throw up a little LMR on me so that I know she isn't sleeping around with every rook who throws her out of the house because she is laying in my bed naked saying she won't have secks with me. She's one fvcking step away from secks, and kicking her out because she throws some half-assed sh!t test attempt at you will only solidify the fact that you aren't getting any that night.
Fair enough, but she made fun of him and that's where the OP got pissed. You can test all you want, but if you do it near the end of the deal means you are not taking the guy seriously and laughing at him. Say it at the beginning, say it on the phone, say at the restaurant, but like that? That's a joke.

But if you're going to get mad at women for not sleeping with you on the first date, you can't be mad at them for being wh0res too.
Again, think it's the timing of the statement. It's like making a date to meet at a restaurant, then the girl says "don't think I want to sit down and eat with you, just wanted to see if you would show up."
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

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simple sh1t test. shut her up with 1. laughing then kissing 2. Anything else besides you asking her LOGICALLY . When you brought Logic into this situation, you lost :(. Girls think emotionally and playfully hence why we have to be playful, fvck emotions, towards them. You had her over and over again ....
 

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If you want to do all that work for a doofus, I would say go for it JohnChops, as for myself I have other plates to spin.
 

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I had a similar situation a couple months ago. Got a chicks number off pof. Our first meet was her coming to my apartment at midnight drunk after she left a bar with friends, because she needed "cuddle time". Wouldn't let me escalate past little peck kisses. Whenever I started kissing her neck, feeling her up or slipping her tongue she would start moaning and then stop me before she lost control. So I remained polite and after the show ended that we were watching I walked her out, no hug or kiss goodbye and I never talked to her again.

You guys can say **** test, or that she woulsve fvcked, but I kept plowing through all of her stop signs for 45 mins or so until I decided that she was a c0ck tease who prolly wanted to fvck (could tell she seemed worried thT if she allowed things to escalate anymore that she would've lot control an let me fvck her) but wasn't gonna jump through her hoop or let her determine when and how things would escalate so I nexted her
 

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Hats off to you, Daily Insanity, I would of done the same thing. Ƒuck her and her ʂhit tests and backing out after 90% of the deal was done. She could of politely said to take her home, and that would of been it. That level of ʂhittiness supersedes actual fecal matter.

Damn. If she's DTF for some other time, I'd get her hot, slip on the condom, hold it at the edge of her muff, then go "ah, ʂhit, I just remembered I have to return some video tapes...you gotta go" lol
 

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rule #1 when a girl says she's not going to have sex with you, she's thinking of having sex with you. if she's thinking of having sex with you your probably going to have sex with her. you just failed the test. and its not a hard test to pass. take two steps back, keep your cool, then start to move forward again. its pretty easy to give them excuses to have sex with you cause thats what they want.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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thevilittletroll said:
rule #1 when a girl says she's not going to have sex with you, she's thinking of having sex with you. if she's thinking of having sex with you your probably going to have sex with her. you just failed the test. and its not a hard test to pass. take two steps back, keep your cool, then start to move forward again. its pretty easy to give them excuses to have sex with you cause thats what they want.
Are you seriously telling me you HAVE to pass TESTS to fvck a girl? When did men start taking tests from women? Might as well tell them to create one on paper and grade your balls from 1-10 if they're good enough.


I am not a classroom bltch. I dont need to be tested, nor do I give a ___.
 

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Yea that OR she wasn't gonna fvck and was a c0ck tease who enjoys power and playing games and being crazy

Truth is, what you're saying might be accurate for some chicks, and not for others. You seem to be making a lot of assumptions. Again you're advice is good but not definitive of how things work with ALL girls in this situation


SoSuave666 said:
Like I said, she knew why she was there, as did OP. They were going to have secks. All you have to do is play the game a little bit, and not be butthurt because some girl isn't OK with being considered a slvt.

Was it OPs first date with her? Second? I get the idea that it's their first, considering that the OP is shocked they aren't going to have secks (as if they'd done it before and she is throwing a major sh!t test by witholding secks). Hell, I almost want my women to throw up a little LMR on me so that I know she isn't sleeping around with every rook who throws her out of the house because she is laying in my bed naked saying she won't have secks with me. She's one fvcking step away from secks, and kicking her out because she throws some half-assed sh!t test attempt at you will only solidify the fact that you aren't getting any that night.

If it's continual, and you pursue and she continues to resist, or you go out on another date and nothing materializes, then that's a nother story. But if you're going to get mad at women for not sleeping with you on the first date, you can't be mad at them for being wh0res too.
 

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Quote: "So I took this HB7 out for drinks and food tonight and there was alot of Kino and kissing so I took her home and when we got upstairs we went straight to my room."

***There's no need to go straight to your room. You can get a woman turned on in any room in the house. You just keep kissing and touching and getting her turned on to the point where she says "I want you to f*ck me RIGHT NOW.". Because you can create a situation where she is asking you to bring her to your bed, creating zero resistance because it is HER idea.

Quote:"I went easy kino and sexual talk when out of the sudden she asks "Are you trying to fvck me tonight, because it wont happen. I was stunned."

***Let's say everything happened the way you said. She had high interest and was well behaved during the date. You're touching a lot and kissing on your bed and she says this. There are many ways to respond to this.

"Are you trying to f*ck me tonight because it won't happen."

Look at her in the eyes and say "You're getting ahead of yourself." Then just keep kissing her passionately.

"Yeah. I don't think we should. Mmmmmm. But your kisses taste so good."
Then keep kissing her.

Those are just 2 examples.

The point is her actions show she has high interest. Even if you both didn't have sex that night and kept kissing passionately in your room, this is a good thing. If she leaves your place all hot and bothered, then if you both didn't have sex that night, then when you both do have sex, there will be so much sexual tension built up that she will at some point either rip your clothes off or beg you to have sex with her.

When you responded to what she said logically, trying to RATIONALIZE and JUSTIFY things to her, first, you killed the mood and second, you took a weak, inferior frame of mind. Any time you are the one being questioned and the one who feels the need to explain things, like you're the one in the hot seat being interrogated, you're taking a weak position. The thing is, you put yourself in that position by responding the way you did. You ASSUMED the weaker position by choosing a weak response.

You reacted like a beggar who somehow was getting away with something, instead of simply not sweating it and enjoying kissing and touching, etc etc. Then the night would have either ended with you both having sex or with you both kissing passionately and maybe some heavy petting. Then she leaves hot and bothered and then you have sexual tension which will lead to sex soon enough.

I think what happened was, she said "No sex tonight." with her words, but her actions (making out with you earlier, then going with you to your bedroom and making out and touching, etc) were saying she wanted you. Then by responding logically, you FORCED her to come up with a rationalization for her token resistance. You basically called her false bluff, then she felt cornered and had to come up with a false rationalization for a statement she probably didn't mean.

Do you really think she's going to say "I don't want other people to think I'm a slut so I'm putting up a facade of resistance so that I can deceive myself into thinking that despite my token resistance, I couldn't resist. That I was swept away in the moment. Then I can justify to myself and others that "it just happened" or that it was "meant to be"."?

Reminds me of a joke. Two bulls were standing on the top of a hill looking down at a bunch of cows in a field. The young bull said to the old bull "Let's run down there and f*ck some of them cows!". The old bull said "No. Let's WALK down the hill and f*ck ALL of them.".

In being too eager you pass up opportunities or push away women who are very interested. IF she had been misbehaving and treating you badly, THEN I would applaud you for not dealing with her b.s. and kicking her out. Because I think men should have high standards for the behavior of their women. In this case, I think she was saying she wanted you with her body and her actions, put up some fake, token resistance to ease her own temporary, momentary guilt for what she was about to do in the bedroom with you, then you felt the need to explain yourself and forced her to come up with some, any kind, of explanation. You flipped out because you were in a weak frame of mind and wrongly perceived her behavior as some form of disrespectful game-playing and gave her the boot.

No worries. Just save your outrage and willingness to walk away for genuine displays of bad behavior and disrespect.
 

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incognito42 said:
I had a similar situation a couple months ago. Got a chicks number off pof. Our first meet was her coming to my apartment at midnight drunk after she left a bar with friends, because she needed "cuddle time". Wouldn't let me escalate past little peck kisses. Whenever I started kissing her neck, feeling her up or slipping her tongue she would start moaning and then stop me before she lost control. So I remained polite and after the show ended that we were watching I walked her out, no hug or kiss goodbye and I never talked to her again.

You guys can say **** test, or that she woulsve fvcked, but I kept plowing through all of her stop signs for 45 mins or so until I decided that she was a c0ck tease who prolly wanted to fvck (could tell she seemed worried thT if she allowed things to escalate anymore that she would've lot control an let me fvck her) but wasn't gonna jump through her hoop or let her determine when and how things would escalate so I nexted her
I've seen this more than once. There are girls who will make out with you in the bar, eagerly go back to your place, even have another drink, then will NOT be down for sex no matter what you do. Yes this happens. I'm not sure why some people on here don't think women will ocassionally not follow through on the unspoken deal (coming back to your place is an unstated agreement for sex) and waste your time, but some girls do that sometimes.

It's not the same thing as LMR or token resistance that some posters are focusing on.
 

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First, I gotta say that some of your reactions to people's thoughts about your OP have been kinda harsh. You asked us for our thoughts, remember? No need to go off on us, maaaaaan!

Anyway... I understand the two paths of thought being expressed on here. Thought path 1 says "the fact that she brought it up means she had sex on her mind and wanted it," while thought path 2 says "the fact that she brought it up means she's an attention wh0re who was just playing mind games with him the whole time."

What's important to realize, however, is that at the time she said it there was NO real indication of which thought path she was on. Therefore, regardless of what she was thinking, the best action to counter-act either one should have been the same:

INDIFFERENCE.

In other words, there was no need for you to have a reaction whereby you're showing her you're emotionally invested in either outcome. Ironically, I have found that doing this tends to make the girl more apt to go in the route of wanting to have sex with me.

Real talk: I went out with an Armenian chick once. On our first date we saw a movie, then at the end we made out in her car. I wanted her to drive me back to my place so we could do whatever. She said she had been hurt in the past and wanted to take it slow. My reaction? "Sure, no problem."

On the second date, after we went out to eat, she drove me back to my apartment. I thought she was just going to drop me off; she asks if she can come in so we can watch a movie, and I say "Sure, no problem."

While on the couch watching the movie, we start making out heavy. Suddenly, she pulls away and says "Just so you know, we're not having sex tonight."

Now, up to this point I have not once mentioned trying to have sex with her, so I know she's thinking about it and trying to resist out of fear of being hurt. So what did I do? Did I turn all the lights back on and send her home? NO.

I simply said to her: "Look, I'm just trying to get to know you. You're the one that's brought up sex so far, not me. If it happens, great, but if not, that's fine, too - like I said, I'm just enjoying getting to know you."

3 hours later she was in my bed (which SHE decided to go to first, not me), I was kissing on her neck, she was pulling my boxers off and we were going at it like wild animals. All because I was indifferent to the outcome.

Bottom line: not all girls are 1st-date bangers; there will be girls who won't want to do it until the 2nd or 3rd date, or even longer. However, if the interest from them to bang you IS there, it's okay to wait it out a bit (and if you don't want to wait, you're welcome to find girls that won't wait either).

More importantly, though, it will be easier to make these girls feel comfortable about banging them sooner if you DON'T respond to their "not having sex" convo with actions indicating that that's all you wanted from them in the first place. Yes, she's in your room, in your bed, but that doesn't mean you've made the sale yet.

In fact, when she told you that, your best move would have been to say, "Wow, somebody's got sex on the brain, don't they?" then played with her like, "Well, that's all good. So, let's move this party to the living room, shall we?" Her guard would have been put down a bit by you moving her away from the "prime sex location" - i.e. a bed - and she probably would have ended up screwing you on your couch instead!
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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