"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Hell Hath No Fury - why you mustn't 'Reject' women

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Women DREAD being rejected, even more than men do!

'Pick Up' principally exists to alert guys to that it's OKAY to begin a conversation with a woman, and that the worst thing that will happen is that she'll dismiss you impolitely! So after a short while of being 'rejected' frequently, you become accepting of it, and inured to it... being rejected never feels GOOD, but the sting wanes and isn't so severe, after just a little while.

WOMEN ARE NOT USED TO BEING REJECTED (at least, not actively!) and NEVER get used to being 'rejected after the fact' (ie, guys' not phoning)

Therefore, most women hesitate or refuse to give men their numbers when they suspect there is ANY chance that the guy won't call.

In essence, if you take a phone number from a girl and you DON'T phone her the very next day, she feels rejected.
If you haven't phoned her by the end of the second day, she rationalizes that YOU JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE BALLS to follow up.

If you first call her on or after the third day since she gave you her number, she figures "Oh, so he's playing a GAME... WELL... I can play games too!" (And women are a DAMN sight better at it that any of us!)

BUT they DO crave and want sex - and they want it with men who CANNOT leave them feeling taken advantage of - so they either USE MEN for sex, or they force men into guarantying them some form of security before they consummate their sexual relationship.

The #1 absolutely greatest fear any woman has regarding sex IS FEELING "USED" - (even more frightening than the prospect of being rejected!) so if they decide they want to have sex with you RIGHT NOW, and you take them up on it, everyone wins.

If you DON'T take them up on it, they feel rejected in a PRIMAL way - since women are raised to believe their greatest asset and their ultimate value socially is their sexuality (Yeah, it's ****ed up, but that's how our culture raises women!) - so by rejecting them, YOU DISCOUNT THEM AS VALUELESS - and that hurts a lot!

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned - and SCORNED means 'rejected and dismissed, humiliatingly'.


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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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very good post, my ex-gf was recently "rejected" after her new boytoy fell asleep while she was on top of him :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:

now that is a rejection and a half!!!

to be fair, he is an WBAFC :) it makes me laugh to watch a relationship like this because of how pissed off the ex-gf gets at him, but at the same time it is very sad.

- comic_relief
 

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comic_relief said:
very good post, my ex-gf was recently "rejected" after her new boytoy fell asleep while she was on top of him :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:

now that is a rejection and a half!!!

to be fair, he is an WBAFC :) it makes me laugh to watch a relationship like this because of how pissed off the ex-gf gets at him, but at the same time it is very sad.

- comic_relief
What the F are you thinking ? Why are you wasting one microsecond of your time letting her talk to you about her sex life with your replacement?

Get some respect for yourself.
 

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Jophil, it depends on the ex, and the situation. I have an ex, and we're genuinely friends nowadays. Not actively, but we talk once in a blue moon, and we're cool enough with each other, that we can joke around about stuff like that. Its a different story if she called him up to directly 'vent' about it, but for all we know, they might be cool like that, and she wanted to share a laugh with him, and brought up in casual convo, or maybe they were comparing stories.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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I say let them experience rejection the way we do.

Femminism and the media have created a society where women feel a sense of entitlement and superiority, not to mention an almost complete lack of accountability.

The best thing we can do for society is to let them feel the pain of rejection as often as is appropriate. Even at the expense of a few phone numbers.
 
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Atom Smasher said:
I say let them experience rejection the way we do.

Femminism and the media have created a society where women feel a sense of entitlement and superiority, not to mention an almost complete lack of accountability.

The best thing we can do for society is to let them feel the pain of rejection as often as is appropriate. Even at the expense of a few phone numbers.
I agree with the feminism part. Feminism destroyed our social contract with women, so all's fair in love and war.

I wouldn't reject women that are into you. Let them suck your **** and buy you dinner.
 

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jophil28 said:
What the F are you thinking ? Why are you wasting one microsecond of your time letting her talk to you about her sex life with your replacement?

Get some respect for yourself.
whoever said that I was "entirely" replaced? She's still single :D

Plus I'm dating two of her best friends so I am still seeing her :p

comic_relief
 

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Johnny Soporno, I don't get your point. Are you telling us to hit it where it hurts the most for women? I think it will amuse me to see the little princesses get a taste of what men get all the bloody time.
 

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comic_relief said:
whoever said that I was "entirely" replaced? She's still single :D

Plus I'm dating two of her best friends so I am still seeing her :p

comic_relief
YOu wrote that she was your " EX/gf ".
So by extension, you are her EX/bf.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Hey Johnny,

You live in Amsterdam right? Well I was recently in the Netherlands for the Zomer Festival in Rotterdam. One thing, that goes undercover in Netherlands is Zomer Festival, it's like Europe's best kept secret. I've never seen so many fine B's in my life! On the contrary, they're however VERY STUCK-UP. I only got 3 numbers from all probably HB9's Brazilian-mulatto type brunnettes. The only downfall was that I didn't know a word of DUTCH.

I haven't called or emailed any of them yet, although we both have eachothers HYVES and EMAIL. Should I give them a taste of their own medicine for what their comrades in the Festival did that where stuck-up or should I just say ""Hi and Bye"". . . ?
 

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In a nutshell the OP seems to be saying all men should be ****s under glass for women. A feminist could've wrote this post. You forgot the part that women love a challenge and want what they can't get. I've contacted lots of girls the next day and others a few days later, and the only thing that mattered was if they were interested in me in the first place and not how many days went by. Funny thing is the ones I contacted the next day were usually less receptive. That says something for being a challenge and not seeming to eager or being too available for women.
 

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jophil28 said:
YOu wrote that she was your " EX/gf ".
So by extension, you are her EX/bf.
True, doesn't mean that I can't still have sex with her :)

- comic_relief
 

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comic_relief said:
True, doesn't mean that I can't still have sex with her :)

- comic_relief
SO you are banging your ex who is also banging her new boy ?
WHo is the prize in that deal ? Here is a clue - it is not you, and it is not her boy toy.
These deals have drama guaranteed.
Smart MEN do not get in triangles.
 

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Jitterbug said:
Are you telling us to hit it where it hurts the most for women?
No, what I'm telling you is DON'T IGNORE WHEN A WOMAN *WANTS YOU* - take her up on it IMMEDIATELY!

If she sends you serious signals, FOLLOW UP THEN AND THERE! Either invite her to leave with you, and take her to bed, OR if that's not possible, take her number and call her absolutely as soon as you can, so you can still strike while the iron is hot!

Make no mistake - any woman who decides she's into you and wants you IS THE IDEAL GIRL - she knows what she wants and you're IT!

Don't be caught up by the lethally stupid notion that if you didn't have to 'do anything' to get her to like you, if you haven't had to PAY for her attention, she must be 'cheap' or 'easy' and therefore beneath you.

YOU'VE ALREADY INVESTED HEAVILY INTO HER BEING ATTRACTED TO YOU!

You've already invested your ENTIRE LIFETIME to becoming the man you are RIGHT NOW!
....AND IF SHE HAS THE GOOD SENSE TO APPRECIATE YOU, THAT MAKES HER A VERY HIGH QUALITY WOMAN INDEED!

I hope that's clearer now!

:)

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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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jophil28 said:
Smart MEN do not get in triangles.
Damn right!

Smart MEN exclusively operate in polygons with WAY more than three participants, ultimately becoming one of the central hubs to which all the spokes are attached!

Sounds like Comic_Relief is well on the way to that, having ongoing sex with his 'ex', as well as two of her girlfriends, and whatever number of other playmates he has established :)

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Oh I get what you meant now.

"Strike when the iron's hot"

That's pretty much the only thing I have in mind when I'm out being social, even though I can recite plenty of Game knowledge.

You're dead on point about this:

Don't be caught up by the lethally stupid notion that if you didn't have to 'do anything' to get her to like you, if you haven't had to PAY for her attention, she must be 'cheap' or 'easy' and therefore beneath you.
That's the death trap for a lot of guys who are just learning the Game. They think they have to run the perfect Game on the poor girl first before they think she deserves it. :D
 
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it does not matter whether you are male or female, none of us likes rejection. It is a fear shared by both sexes, its how we handle the rejecton that sets us apart as individuals not as men or women. I would say that 90% of men and women handle rejection inappropriately by getting defensive and even rude. Gender has nothing at all to do with the emotions we feel when we are rejected.
 
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And make her laugh, make her think but what is make her cvm, sorry I am blonde.

And the right man would be the one that most men I have dated think they are as well.
 

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Jitterbug said:
Johnny Soporno, I don't get your point. Are you telling us to hit it where it hurts the most for women? I think it will amuse me to see the little princesses get a taste of what men get all the bloody time.
I think you're reading into his post a bit much. Basically he's saying what everyone with a sister already knows: chicks are mega crazy when it comes to getting rejected because of all the value that's heaped on their sexuality. If a guy sexually rejects them it cuts them to the bone of who they are. That's one of the core unspoken tenets of human society, that women's value is based on their sexuality. But that's nature. When you break it down to the core elements of humanity one of them that we're already familiar with is that men are simply attracted to the things that indicate a woman will give good babies. Our culture and society has evolved with that simple fact at its center.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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