"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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hehe my fear of hot ladies is gone!!! cussed out hb9

Fenderules

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well i still got fear of approach bit its the same as an ugly chick so its barely anything, just a little fuzzyness in the stomach. lol i met this one chick who was really hot. All the guys were trying to hit her up but frankly i kinda found her anoying so i decided to neg hit her a bunch instead. I was actually trying to insult her to the point to where i would get slapped and it didnt work. I mean she was not happy that i was insulting her but i didnt give a ****. All the other guys are like "wtf did you just say". She took off her shoes and im like "phewww those feet stink" and when she lost her balance she is like "oo i guess im a little tipsy" and im naaa its prolly cause your naturally retarded. she looked at me and was like "uhhhhh yeah"

i dunno i said a bunch of **** and when she sat down i used her leg as foot rest. i wanted to see how far i could push it lol.

i found it liberating.


anyway this is her site.

http://web9.www.nexopia.com/profile.php?uid=269186
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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damn, she is fine! Based on your post, it doesnt appear that your fear of HB's are gone. it seems that you put up a fake cold front, to avoid intimacy and attachment. dont let bad past experiences lead to resenting women...

ok you did all that, and what did she do to you?

what was the point of the date, did you learn anything ?

fender, what you said arent neghits, they are just dead on insults.

here are a few examples :

"so, what else do you have going for you other than your looks?"

(this girl is taking driving lessons)
"give me a call next time you have lessons so i'll get out of the street."

what she said - i guess im a little tipsy
"hmm, you might wanna consider hitting the gym..."

hmmm....this girl looks familiar, i think i've seen her face from some other site awhile back
 

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My first thought was "yet another person who doesn't understand what a neg-hit is." Go re-read the bible.

I'm glad you found this encounter liberating, but to me it seems as if you just screwed yourself out of a good oppurtunity to lay that girl. Even tho you didn't do a neg-hit properly, the whole point of the neg-hit is to bring down the girl's ego just enough so that she will want to win your respect back, thus making it easy for you to hook up with her.

With good game, you would have ended up hooking up with this girl, instead of just insulting her. And if it's not good game, then it's bad game.

But that's ok, if you learn from all this you will get far. One day at a time.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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You want to become the greatest person you can become, not a negative person. Why do you think the world loved Martin Luther King, and Ghandi? These were normal human beings just like you and I but they were loved because they chose to be excellent people. Meaning no matter what the other person's behaviour was like they still made people feel great about themselves. They looked for the good in people and thus people loved them. That is what charisma is, the ability to make peopel love you by making them feel good about themselves. All that neg hit stuff is still a tool to hide insecurities. A person who isnt insecure doesnt feel the need to bring someone else down because they already feel worthy. Next time try letting her know that she doesnt have to try so hard to have people like her, just be herself. You have to learn how to read people, because its very clear from her web site that this girl has very very low self esteem.

Be Excellent, not an A Hole
 
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She is a total attention *****. Ignoring her probably would've worked too.
 

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Being an a$$h0 or an angry jerk is very easy. Watch as people FEAR you instead of ADMIRE you. There is a difference between being aggressive and assertive.
 

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Reading that little blurb on her site, she has some major issues. Sounds like she has bad taste in men and probably does have low self-esteem like Royal Elite says.

I also don't consider her that hot, but I don't like blondes, so that could be it.

As others have said, it doesn't take any skill to be a mean assh0le. Sure, you aren't kissing her ass like the other guys, but you are still aren't being a DJ.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Maybe this actually DID work for him. We'll find out when he goes out somewhere and doesn't have any reservations about going up and talkin and gettin' those hotties.

If he does, then this technique actually worked for him. If he doesn't, then those who said that it didn't work were right.

Keep us updated.

Alexi
 

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Christ almighty, she's what constitutes as a "HB9"? She looks like an average looking bimbo with about $450 worth of makeup and hair work on her.

And yeah, you weren't exactly "playin it cool" and coming off as a really secure non-AFC guy. You were just trying too hard to be an ass.

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ok, maybe not ugly, but certainly average looking.
 

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how does he meet some random chick and neg hit her and then find her on a random as website?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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She's my type appearance-wise. I like the cheekbones and the whole thing. I'd give her a 9. But that's besides the point.
I don't see what you could have gained in any aspect by calling her retarded or stuff like that. You would have been better off being distant too her.
 

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I'd fuk but my god how much eye makeup does she need?
 

Scrumtulescence

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Originally posted by Panda 2000
She's my type appearance-wise. I like the cheekbones and the whole thing. I'd give her a 9. But that's besides the point.
I don't see what you could have gained in any aspect by calling her retarded or stuff like that. You would have been better off being distant too her.
It's not the facial features per se that turn me off. It's the whole "I cover myself in makeup to attain the generic unnatural beauty" look that I despise. I can't even tell what she really looks like.
 

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Let's see...what are we forgetting here?

1)
Although this probably ruined his chance of ever having a date with this girl, most of you keyboard-jockeys wouldn't have half a testicle enough to do what this man did. You'd just sit there with your tongues wagging and then come to this forum and be like, "HB9, can't approach, how do I play this?? NEED HELP PLZ!!"

2)
All of you little turds yelling, "she's no 9, she's ugly! She's just a common slut bimbo!" all sound like a bunch of gossipy women...you know that each and every one of you would "hit it" if the opportunity arose. "Slut" and "bimbo" are words used by inferior women to make women who are attractive and promiscuous feel bad about themselves...words used to put others down to make themselves feel big. To see them used here is kind of sickening.

Fender, kudos to you for standing up to the common social convention of kissing hot girls' asses. The KJs are right that this most likely ruins your chances with the girl, but then again she may end up curious about what makes you so bad-ass that you can do these things to her while everyone else is fawning...it doesn't sound like you said anything TERRIBLY offensive and depending on your delivery (if you did it in a teasing and not ignorant way), you may have stimulated her interest.

Even if not, even if you DID blow your chances with this girl, then congratulations on not being a slave to beauty. You can always refine technique later...unlike those who sit around arguing about technique and never put it into practice. :p

Pisses me off when I see those kinds of people talking down to others for conquering their fears and social stigmas.
 

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Well she wasn't all that cute to me. I'm surpised that such a young woman would be so insecure as to get implants at that age. And that bleached out hair doesn't sit well or her make-up application looks cheap and trashy.

I'd give her a 7 without the fake glamour. She is also a fag. I saw her kissing a few of her friends when I scrolled down the page...so she lost a few more points in my book.

You did good trashing this one since she is already a piece of garbage to begin with!
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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