"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Hb8 Milf problem I ran into a wall.

LayercakeBryan

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I met this Hb8 Milf and she was really into me as I have a son 4 yrs old that I have most of the time. I have another plate but I like this woman, well we meet and have the best first couple of dates on the third we have sex many times. then we do the kid thing (park, playground etc.) All is good so far I have been aloof and keeping some mystery, she has been eating it up but with some pressure for more so I give a little to relieve some pressure. The kids were C-blocking all day which was fine any chance she would get she would be up on me kissing and touching, so at the end of the day i was dead tired and so was she but she pushed for me to come back and stay the night with her after I dropped my son off. Here is where things got weird, I leave and about five min. after she calls and says she is to tired I was actually going to do the same, I got mildly upset saying we could have figured this out before I left. The reason is I feel like she has been S*^% testing me that day. so i go home and go to bed and ignore her calls for the night. the next day she wants to come over with her son and hang out, mine is with his mother. Let the c-blocking begin again she says things like she is always initiating affection and wonders if i am interested I say yes and kiss her or something.
My dilemma is I do like her and would like to have some time with her, but she has an Ass of an ex that will not step up and take the kid more, and I feel like I gave her a little to much info, emotion and she says she thinks I'm acting different and I say the same about her now all we talk about is everyday crap. This is not Oneitis just want to see where it go's I need to stoke the fire a bit, or maybe I'm overreacting because she is really busy this week at work. I want to give one last shot before I next her.


Things that have changed
-Less text initiated from her.
-Talk about everyday crap.
-Seems like she wants to ignore White Elephant in room and continue moving forward.
-My attitude it used to be light and fun now its serious, by her pressure.
-Sunday was crazy affectionate but felt like Mommy and Daddy day.

Thanks need help getting back to fun and sex.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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LayercakeBryan

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I have decided to withdrawal a little off her Radar and see what happens, if she doesn't bite then Next! Tell me if I have any other options... one more thing she has a problem with being to elusive because of her ex so I don't want to overdo it.
 

jophil28

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LayercakeBryan said:
-My attitude it used to be light and fun now its serious, by her pressure.
The message is in the sentence above. Your personal power in a relationship always lies in your indifference. Do you realize how much power she now believes that she has, and this has happeened at your expense..it always does.
The wild sex was her hook and she now knows that you are hooked and squirming .
You stopped being a challenge and a mystery and started entering HER world . Never join in a woman's life to the extent that your activities revolve around the circumstances and conditions of her world. That is what you have done.
Notice how women change when they get what they want.

You and she are now playing "happy families" and she is starting to treat you like a whipped dad to her kids.
This situation may be able to be saved but regaining lost ground is always harder than defending it when it was originally your's.
 
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LayercakeBryan

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I think I am going to next her but I still like her and maybe want some hookups in the future, basically she is giving me s*** test and I don't play that so how do I next her nicely?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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