"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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HB3 Sales Rep and I got **** blocked!

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HB9 Sales Rep and I got **** blocked!

I work for a small family run business. I manage one of the locations. As usually I get calls from different company's trying to sell me things my business "cant do without". On Friday I got a call from what sounded like a very polite younger women, she explained who she worked for and that she would like to come see me and show me what her company could offer mine. I had nothing on my schedule for Monday and I get a kick out of having these people come try to sell me things, not to mention she sounded sexy and although I didn't have my hopes up as I've been fooled by a sexy voice before but whats better then getting paid to talk to a sexy lady so why not.

I hear the door open and I walk out of the back to be greeted by a HB9 carrying a crap load of her product.

hb9:"HI! you must be RU18QT?"
Me:"yea, your with ____ I take it,**shake hands** I am just in the middle of something, put your stuff down and I'll be right with you."

Me:"you know I am really sorry but I talked to the boss and he said I blew all our budget on ______ already!"
hb9:"oh well you know blah blah blah"

We talk for a bit about her stuff and I show her around the building as I tell her what we do. After about 5mins of fluff talk to do with what she sells I get an opening.

Me:"so your from ___City___?"
hb9:"yea, well not original, I grew up in _____ and moved to ____ for school, I really liked it there and ended up staying, then somehow I got this crazy job"
Me:"haha yea, i love going to __city__ its a lot of fun!"
hb9:"yea but it sucks, i am never there, they have me here for 2 weeks, then I am off to ______ for a week then back to here then finally back to ___city___ for awhile. It'll be great to be home finally"
Me:"yea I bet, that sounds like a hectic schedule"
hb9:"i know right! my cat probably hates me!"
Me:"nah he's probably happy to have you outta the house for once :D "
hb9:"hahaha yea I bet your right!"
hb9:"my roommate has a chiwawa to keep her company, i am not sure if you have ever had one of those, but they are so annoying, like its just a stupid little dog hahaha"

this goes on for awhile and we seam to be having a fairly good fun conversation going with a lot of eye contact and smiling. She randomly dropped at few bits of informations she didnt have to tell me at all and that had nothing to do with our conversation, like how she's staying at the days inn. Then my dad shows up :down: I introduce them and he immediately tells her we aren't interested at all. She stays for about 5mins telling us all about what she can offer us, she keeps saying my name when she refers what we went over already. She decides to leave but looks me in the eye and says,

HB9:"I'll be in town for 2 weeks, if you change your mind on anything please let me know"

and hands me her card, which she could have easily handed it to my father or left it on my desk but didn't. After she leaves my dad starts grilling me about how I was probably running game on her all morning instead of working and laughed at me.



I notice the card has a cell phone number on it. I really have nothing to loose by calling and I plan to do so. She's from out of town staying in a hotel so she's probably bored off her ass. I am thinking I'll call her and say something up front about how we should meet up instead of trying to play it off like I want to buy something and then ask her out.



If you were in my situation what would you do to be the least creepy way of randomly call her and ask her out??
 
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Play with the situation.Sometimes just for some kicks I tell a girl lets hang out and "chit chat about the universe and nature".Its funny cause of the way I pull it off and they obviously know Im kidding and that Im a goof.

I would call her and be like "Lets talk about some more business opportunities ya know and discuss about the business me and you are opening together".She knows you guys obviously arent,but it adds some variety and makes you different and therefore she will want to talk with you.

Girls love like role playing ideas.TRUST ME go along with the you and her opening a business together and say you have to get some lunch or whatever to go plan.Even make some suggestions over the phone.

I guess this might or might not work for you depending on what type of person you are.

Dont say it upfront.By using my idea,you are in a way saying it upfront but using the whole business deal just so she probably isnt as nervous and doesnt feel so serious and stuff around you.I guess it just depends how you played your game.
 

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She talked to you and handed you her card because you were obviously somewhat interested in what she was selling. She knew she might be able to get you to buy if she teased you and played into your "game"

You listened to her line, your dad didn't.

Salesman morph into what they think there subjective customer wants...or at least the good ones do.
 

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I would call her up and invite her to do something in your town that she would have fun at instead of sitting in a hotel room for 2 weeks. What do you have to lose by asking her?

edit: I would have given Dad sh1t for c0ckblocking.
 

RU18QT?

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Moofahsa said:
She talked to you and handed you her card because you were obviously somewhat interested in what she was selling. She knew she might be able to get you to buy if she teased you and played into your "game"

You listened to her line, your dad didn't.

Salesman morph into what they think there subjective customer wants...or at least the good ones do.

Yea I completly realize she could just be trying to make sales. She never even mentioned anything about pricing or wasn't trying to push anything on me. She told me about what they do and how she thought it could help me, which i told her I wasnt interested in.

Even if she was just trying to sell sell sell I have nothing at all to loose by calling her, and she would be foolish to sit in her room and do nothing then come out and doing something enjoyable with me so I have that huge advantage going for me. I am still learning my game and I just am at a loss for how to go about this without being a needy creep with no life haha.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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RU18QT? said:
HB9:"I'll be in town for 2 weeks, if you change your mind on anything please let me know"

This is the key. AND the fact that she gave it to you after your dad, THE BOSS in her eyes, came in and completely shut down the sale. You built up the rapport with her before the sale, now she is waiting for you to close.


RU18QT? said:
Even if she was just trying to sell sell sell I have nothing at all to loose by calling her, and she would be foolish to sit in her room and do nothing then come out and doing something enjoyable with me so I have that huge advantage going for me. I am still learning my game and I just am at a loss for how to go about this without being a needy creep with no life haha.
Just call her up and ask her to do something. There is NOTHING needy about that. Like I said earlier and you agreed, you got nothing to lose. If you screw it up who cares, she'll be out of town in 2 weeks and you'll never see her again. Think of it as the perfect opportunity to practice.
 

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The title of the thread does not relate to the thread.
 

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I know dude, I wanted to hear about the HB3
 

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well i guess she knows that she is a hb9, she knows how she can pull men around her fingers and she is obviously smart (she already got ya :p )
But hey act anyways whats the worst thing that could happen?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Why is everyone else so negative? Hot girls need love too!! I honestly think I have a chance with her, I have not even put her on my radar though as a potential so I could careless how it turns out. All I am asking for is basically a collective brain storm so I can put something together that'll make it happen.
 

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RU18QT? said:
Hot girls need love too!!

Yes but they can be as choosey as eating the red smarties last. They are the cream of the crop, so they can select the 6'1 hockey / football / basketball players to let in their pants. Think it about: If you owned an expensive rental place, would you rent to the guy working at McDonalds or to the oil executive who just got a $100,000 bonus?

Thank you, I'll be here all week.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Did you read my post?What are your thoughts?I gave you something to think about so tell me what you think
 

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Yes but they can be as choosey as eating the red smarties last. They are the cream of the crop, so they can select the 6'1 hockey / football / basketball players to let in their pants. Think it about: If you owned an expensive rental place, would you rent to the guy working at McDonalds or to the oil executive who just got a $100,000 bonus?
I think you guys who keep saying "girls always go after the 6'1 hockey/basketball/football players" haven't really gone out much. I've seen tall, good-looking, athletic guys who don't really get as much action as you guys think they would.

It's all about how well-adjusted you are socially, your dating experience, and your confidence level... seriously. You put a 6'1 brute against the likes of 5'6 Tom Cruise and Cruise will beat him every time. Don't be full of misconceptions, please. The world of social interactions is much more dynamic than that. Of course being a 6'1 musclehead doesn't HURT your chances, but it doesn't mean you're just getting action all the time.
 

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619joe said:
Did you read my post?What are your thoughts?I gave you something to think about so tell me what you think
I like it, I think its a good idea and I think I'll try to work something like that in the future. But I think just the general way the conversation would go would make it akward.

Me: Hello HB9, This is RU18QT? with ______
HB9: Oh hey!
Me: So when can we get together to discuse our business plan, you know of the business we are starting together?
HB9: I already work somewhere bye!!

HAHA of course that wouldnt happen but idk just seams wierd because I'll have to introduce myself as the person who works at _____. I still might try and use this though because it does break the ice and posibly wont scare her away.


MacAvoy said:
When do you plan on calling her?

Tomorrow afternoon, to try and setup at date for either tomorrow evening or thursday night.


I am thinking this is what I'll go with.

Me:
Hey ______ this is RU18QT? with _____ you came to see me on monday.
HB9: Oh hey.... blah blah buy? blah blah blah?
Me: I havnt had much time to think about _____ but I noticed your card on my desk, I usualy go out and play pool with my buddies on wednsdays but today everyone is sick/canceled, would you like to join me instead?
Posible Responses:
HB9: No thanks I dont socialize with clients!
Me: I am not a client, I havnt actualy bought anything from you yet. But I understand rules are rules, have a nice night.


HB9: I'd love to but I already have plans tonight!
Me: Hey cool, maybe I'll try you someother time, if you get bored my number is ________, have a good night.


HB9: Yes totaly!!
Me: Great, your at the days inn right? I'll pick you up at 7.



Thoughts??
 

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The Deacon said:
I think you guys who keep saying "girls always go after the 6'1 hockey/basketball/football players" haven't really gone out much. I've seen tall, good-looking, athletic guys who don't really get as much action as you guys think they would.

It's all about how well-adjusted you are socially, your dating experience, and your confidence level... seriously. You put a 6'1 brute against the likes of 5'6 Tom Cruise and Cruise will beat him every time.
I don't know dude, I've been out with hot girls and they rarely ever want sex. I've been out with not hot girls and they have asked me for the sex, which I've refused. The hot girls never want it because they save themselves for the best they can - 6'1 players. It's the basic law of economics, supply + demand.

Give me Tom Cruise's looks and $100 M in the bank, and I'll beat the 6'1 brute everytime too!

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She say she's got a man, but what's that got to do with me?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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