"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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HB12 from Turkey

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Any fellow Americans have any experience from Chicks from Turkey? I met one(and made out with!) when I went out last Saturday night, she didn't seem like most typical American chicks, which, is a breath of fresh air in my opinion.


Oh and before I get **** about "HB12" you should see this girl, flawless, and a perfect combination of cute as hell and hot as hell at the same time, sure theres hot chicks, and cute chicks, but this girl takes the cake!
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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cool. just don't let her know you think so much of her that she's an HB12.
 
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I'm hoping that by '12' you mean she's 12 years old. Because no woman is above a 10 and only a fraction of a percentage are 10s at all. Some would say none. The fact that you're calling her a '12' means you are already overvaluing her, and that's a bad way to begin.
 
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Yeah, I'd pretty much never rate any girl I've dated or done anything with a 10. They're so ****ing rare. An 8 or 9 is rare enough to begin with, but a 10? Probably 60% of the girls guys call 8's and 9's on here are 7's to me (and god damn do I love 7's). You've gotta live in a big city chock full of models to even encounter those girls.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Zarky said:
The fact that you're calling her a '12' means you are already overvaluing her, and that's a bad way to begin.
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Yeah, I thought the same thing. Pedestaling and Oneitis go hand in hand. It's a dangerous thing.

Unless she's a true HB10 and she's rich, a mute and loves sex.

That would indeed maker her a true HB12! ;)
 
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They like a traditional man who slaps them around from time to time. Preferably after coming home at 3am from bars while she waits for you. If she questions this you should tell her, 'Im a man, i will love you as well as beat you'

They like moustaches, and you must tell her that she will quit her job and become a housewife and look after your 3 kids, cooking and cleaning all day.

Unfortunately you will have to convert religion and become a muslim, but drinking and beating is encouraged.

Any more tips, pm me.
 
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hahaha, ok maybe I'm overvaluing her a bit, but I do have a soft spot for cute foreign girls whos english isn't always perfect.

Oh and don't worry about oneits or anything, I have several on my "list", and I NO LONGER have oneits, it may seem that way at times, like one girl I was into might have seemed like it at one time, but then I went ahead and got me a SNL the next day I seen her. I don't think I could limit myself to just one chick at this point, I know better, hahaha.

And Jay will do! BTW you on fb?

But anyway, to get back into the topic at hand, should this girl be gamed the same exact way as the typical American chick, or do negs, etc, not work in this case?
 
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hahaha, ok maybe I'm overvaluing her a bit, but I do have a soft spot for cute foreign girls whos english isn't always perfect.

Oh and don't worry about oneits or anything, I have several on my "list", and I NO LONGER have oneits, it may seem that way at times, like one girl I was into might have seemed like it at one time, but then I went ahead and got me a SNL the next day I seen her. I don't think I could limit myself to just one chick at this point, I know better, hahaha.

And Jay will do! BTW you on fb?

But anyway, to get back into the topic at hand, should this girl be gamed the same exact way as the typical American chick, or do negs, etc, not work in this case?
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Oh and to add to this, I am a midlevel PUA, is there is such a thing, I get annoyed like a AFC which i need to work on a bit, and some of my midgame needs a bit of tweeking to keep interest. No matter how amazing a girl I meet is, if I don't have plans with this chick or another on any given weekend, I'm out meeting the next one(or more in most cases, any given night). In fact about 2 minutes after she left the bar I was making out with someone else.


Speaking of which, is there levels of PUA? like theres afc, pua, and mpua(master pickup artist, ala Mystery, Rob Judge etc, those who can teach it, my next goal)
 
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Speaking of which, is there levels of PUA?
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I'm a Level 23 PUA. I need to clear two more stages to get to Level 24. Got the online trophies to prove it.

;)
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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vatoloco said:
I'm a Level 23 PUA. I need to clear two more stages to get to Level 24. Got the online trophies to prove it.

;)
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Do you get weapons and armor???
 
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Borknagar said:
hahaha, ok maybe I'm overvaluing her a bit, but I do have a soft spot for cute foreign girls whos english isn't always perfect.
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I know what you mean. A girl who's not very good at English or has a cute foreign accent is a total turn-on...
 
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1) She is an Anglo. You are getting an immigrant. Not the same. Save your money and travel if you want the real deal.

2) Turkish females look like s----! That is why I see TONS of Turkish guys in Ukraine. Odessa and even Kyiv get overflowing amounts of Turkish guys on the weekends. MANY MANY Ukrainian girls marry Turkish men. That has been going on for generations. Plus, Ukrainian girls are seen as more traditional than most urban Turkish broads. On a side not, because Ukraines can get to Turkey without a visa many vacation there. I have myself (as a kickazz American that is!). Some beautiful beaches. Yes, most prostitutes in Turkey and much of the Middle East seem to be Ukrainians.
 
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Did you not read my post asshead?? I gave quite a detailed outline on how to achieve the next level in puastation ????????

That is basically a cheat code for getting turkish girls. Some guys just dont get it...

BigJimbo said:
1) She is an Anglo. You are getting an immigrant. Not the same. Save your money and travel if you want the real deal.

2) Turkish females look like s----! That is why I see TONS of Turkish guys in Ukraine. Odessa and even Kyiv get overflowing amounts of Turkish guys on the weekends. MANY MANY Ukrainian girls marry Turkish men. That has been going on for generations. Plus, Ukrainian girls are seen as more traditional than most urban Turkish broads. On a side not, because Ukraines can get to Turkey without a visa many vacation there. I have myself (as a kickazz American that is!). Some beautiful beaches. Yes, most prostitutes in Turkey and much of the Middle East seem to be Ukrainians.
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No ****weed, ukrainian women marry turkish guys because they love the rugged masculine swagger. You eastern europeans must be too soft for your women because they are all getting scooped up down there.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Maybe she was an 8 and she was carrying her midget sister who was a 4.

Always wanted to do a midget...
 
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HolyG said:
vatoloco said:
I'm a Level 23 PUA. I need to clear two more stages to get to Level 24. Got the online trophies to prove it. ;)
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Do you get weapons and armor???
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I got wit as my sword, humor as my shield and indifference as my armor.

:D
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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