"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Who wants to play a little game?

using images (link to them) or worded description, give your definition of an HB 5 and 10.

Example

to me this is an HB 10:

askmen.com/women/top50/24.html (faith hill)


and this is a five: (an average looking women)

attachments.techguy.org/attachments/84028d1154033720/danica-patrick-wallpaper-12.jpg

UPDATE: oops, sorry guys... didn't know she was the GoDaddy girl -- thanks Evil_Muska. Too lazy to update it so it's staying as is... besides in that pic she looks like a 5 to me but I've changed my ranking of her to an 8 -- still no 10 -- Just how I feel.


this should shed the light on what some of you guys mean by HB5 7 8 etc.

thanks for playing!
 
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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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this should shed the light on what some of you guys mean by HB5 7 8 etc.

thanks for playing!
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This is such a STUPID game. First off, everyone's idea of beauty always differs from person to person. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder! You may like the blonde skinny model looking girls, but I prefer that curvy, long black hair girl sitting across the room.
Second, there are no such things as dimes, perfect 10's, blabla baloney! Stop putting these women on pedestals, they are not gods! Do you realize that you are limiting your approaches by ranking these women? I.E. "Oh, she's a 9, I just go for 7's and 8's." Or, "My game only works great for 6's and up, she's way too hot, it won't work out." Having no ranking system also improves the quality of women you're gonna attract. You're gonnna be way more confident around sexy, intelligent women and you'll come off as a natural. If you have no limitations(8,9,10's) the sky is the limit! Like I said before, sleep with a 9 and in the morning you'll probably think she's a 7 at best. That's all, for now >=)
 
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To clarify, it's not stupid because guys on here are all over the map and it is just one reflection of how off some posts 'round her can be. I do agree with = VAGO = completely, but I have called BS long ago to the 'I went to a party and all the girls were 9's and 10's' ...

Danica Patrick a 5... really? made SI Swimsuit (granted the athletes section) a great looking women that can out drive the fvck outta everyone on here - wow, that's interesting.

Most times I subtract 2-3 points from comments as a starting point.
 
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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There should be a rule that you're not allowed to post celebrities, cuz all of them cud arguably be tens
 
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Evil_Muska said:
My 10s look more like

#1. Hayley Williams (from the band Paramore)
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/6074/128629xm5.jpg

and

#2. Lights (from the band Lights)
http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/107/l_5ba3958e14584f4b936ca90b041d6d3d.jpg

and need we not forget

#3. Amy Lee (from Evanescense)
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh44/crow16dark/amy-lee.jpg

:yes:
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dude, these girls are not 10s by any means (maybe it personality but that doesn't count cause we're judging by their looks upon initial approach anyway). Their an 8 - at the MOST. sorry bud.

also don't forget to give your definitions of HB5 s... you're not playing by the rules! lol
 
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=VAGO= said:
This is such a STUPID game. First off, everyone's idea of beauty always differs from person to person. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder! You may like the blonde skinny model looking girls, but I prefer that curvy, long black hair girl sitting across the room.
Second, there are no such things as dimes, perfect 10's, blabla baloney! Stop putting these women on pedestals, they are not gods! Do you realize that you are limiting your approaches by ranking these women? I.E. "Oh, she's a 9, I just go for 7's and 8's." Or, "My game only works great for 6's and up, she's way too hot, it won't work out." Having no ranking system also improves the quality of women you're gonna attract. You're gonnna be way more confident around sexy, intelligent women and you'll come off as a natural. If you have no limitations(8,9,10's) the sky is the limit! Like I said before, sleep with a 9 and in the morning you'll probably think she's a 7 at best. That's all, for now >=)
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VAGO

I agree that beauty is in the eye of the beholder... you're so right about that. But I don't agree that it's a stupid game. Here's why.

most of the guys in these forum DO use ranking to talk about the girls they approach... you can't change that. At least to tell their stories, I think it's a good idea because then we can have some IDEA of what the girls who they are talking to look like. You do like to know what people who they're referring to look like, don't you? I know I do.

When a you or anyone else wants to know say, what aaronlava or sharkybear or DJ_Hero means when they say they approached an HB8 or 7 or 6 then you can search for this thread, "HB Definitions" to see their Definitions.

And your right, because not everyone has the same definitions of what an HB10 looks like, not everyone can assume she looks like say Aaronlava's HB10 ,who to me, look more like HB8s. Get the what I'm saying?

Thanks for playing!
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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sosocool said:
dude, these girls are not 10s by any means (maybe it personality but that doesn't count cause we're judging by their looks upon initial approach anyway). Their an 8 - at the MOST. sorry bud.
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Sorry? What is this, Jeopardy?

"OH I'm so sorry... that's not the right answer."

They're all a 9 to me, and IMO a 10 only applies to a 9 with an amazing personality. I don't think you can have a perfect 10 just by looks.

Argue with me all you want, I really don't care.

I think each guy's perception of the 1 - 10 system is different.

Here's how i see it.

10 - Perfect/Nearly Perfect
9 - Really Hot
8 - Hot
7 - Cute
6 - Kinda cute
5 - Not ugly, but not cute
4 - Pass
3 - Ugly
2 - Fugly
1 - Swamp-Thing

My last gf was a 6, and the last couple girls I've gone after have been in the 8 - 9 range.

And you totally didn't give Danica justice with that picture...
http://www.autoracingdaily.com/images/featured/09_danica-patrick_17.jpg

I'd take her over Faith any day!:moon:
 
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Evil_Muska said:
Sorry? What is this, Jeopardy?

Here's how i see it.

10 - Perfect/Nearly Perfect
9 - Really Hot
8 - Hot
7 - Cute
6 - Kinda cute
5 - Not ugly, but not cute
4 - Pass
3 - Ugly
2 - Fugly
1 - Swamp-Thing
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nice. sounds pretty on point.

Evil_Muska said:
And you totally didn't give Danica justice with that picture...
http://www.autoracingdaily.com/images/featured/09_danica-patrick_17.jpg

I'd take her over Faith any day!:moon:
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haha...but I don't agree with you. Faith Hill in her prime is just too much for this girl you mentioned. btw, was that you're second original answer or are you changing things up on me?

cause that last girl is WOW hot.
 
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sosocool said:
was that you're second original answer or are you changing things up on me?

cause that last girl is WOW hot.
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Did you not listen dude? lol

I'm saying the chick that you said is "average" and was your "5"
http://attachments.techguy.org/attachments/84028d1154033720/danica-patrick-wallpaper-12.owedjpg

and the chick I just showed you
http://www.autoracingdaily.com/images/featured/09_danica-patrick_17.jpg

ARE THE SAME WOMAN.
She's Danica Patrick, the famous hottie racecar driver. The one who's in all those Godaddy.com commercials.

The pic YOU showed was when she was at the track, and the pic I showed was from a photo shoot.

Try pulling up a pic of Faith when she's not at her best and see if you feel the same way about HER too, haha.
 
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Evil_Muska said:
Did you not listen dude? lol

I'm saying the chick that you said is "average" and was your "5"
http://attachments.techguy.org/attachments/84028d1154033720/danica-patrick-wallpaper-12.owedjpg

and the chick I just showed you
http://www.autoracingdaily.com/images/featured/09_danica-patrick_17.jpg

ARE THE SAME WOMAN.
She's Danica Patrick, the famous hottie racecar driver. The one who's in all those Godaddy.com commercials.
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holy **** I didn't know that! lol

WOW she looks so different when she's not all in photo-shoot mode.

Either the girl is a natural 5 and we don't know it (until now) or she was just caught in a bad pose (we all have those). But you're right, I did sleep on her. I take my 5 back!
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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But you're right, I did sleep on her. I take my 5 back!
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That's what Hollywood does lol. It takes "average" women and turns them into HB9's and 10's.

That's why this really shouldn't be based on celebrities, it should be based on girls people actually know.... take for example the girl I've been after recently....

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/113/l_07b0349ca4db4e0e921ec0b649b003a5.jpg

It's a professional picture, but it's not crazy photo-shopped like so many of those model/celebrity pics, so yeah. :whistle:
 
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This is precisely my fvcking point. Some jack a$$ will be reppin' big time on here 'this is how it's done' and 'do this and that' - and the women they are dealing with are not good looking. Entire threads on here must be laced with crap.

Most women who are extremely attractive behave differently than those that are not. Their whole life experience is completely different. They get approached and eye fvcked on a whole different level. An HB10 is probably eye-fvcked by every single guy they come across AND MOST EVERY WOMAN TOO. On average, their skills of smacking down AFC's and dealing with any guy is way higher too. They have options.

Based on your pic's (although the last chick is better looking), r0cky, I would never listen to a thing you say, ever.

And sosocool, I do not know how old you are, but you are on record for calling Danica (as I said SI Swimsuit - Athletes and done a lot of modeling based promo for an athlete) a 5. That first pic of her is not that bad... You must know very little how a women's look can swing up and down depending on a number of factors. So the cred on your posts and field reports is trash too.

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My stats

age: 28
height: 5ft 6in
weight: 140
penis size: humongous
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Please, show us how it's done.

This whole fvcking site is laced with experts who are macking on HB 3-6's and think that they are Brad Pitt.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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