"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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HB 8 w/ a douche??..

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so theres this HB 8 that i always sit next to in my history class...ive had an interst in her for awhile now ever since the semester started. i only talked to her once for like a minute after class. she always asks me questions about what were suppose to do n stuff and borrows pieces of paper from me and smiles at me all the time. but the problem is...

i want to talk to her after class when everyone is walking out but she always goes and walks with this ugly douche that sits behind us. im assuming he might be her BF cuz she always looks like shes having a good time when walking with him after class but im thinking if he actually was her BF then shouldnt he be sitting next to her in class? Anyways...at the class banquet today she went and sat next to him again and they left early together and she passed by me and smiled.

she could be just real good friends with him but how do i find out? i know many of you are going to say..."JUST GO TALK TO HER!!" but im saying...

how do i talk to her when she keeps on walking with him after class? i cant talk to her in class cuz it is a very small room with less than 20 students...and everyone is listening to the lecture right when class starts and everyone can hear if you start talking to others....

any ideas??
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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whether or not they're going out, it doesn't sound like this girl is really making herself available at all. You probably ought to forget about her.

If she sits right next to you, tho, you seriously ought to be able to chat a little more than one minute after class. I mean, come on now.

look her up on facebook and see if she's goin' out with that guy
 

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i tried looking her up on myspace and friendster but i only know her first name but its unique..."joey" i dont know if thats how you actually spell it for a girl but to no avail. how do i find out her full name without seeming kinda frraky asking or whatever..
 

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Yeah she is not opening up to you in that way you want. I would AMOG the other guy out given the opportunity, sometimes pickups in classes can be tricky though. Gotta keep your image up, that's the most important thing. In class, whatever you do should be an attempt to elevate your social position. You'll notice all the girls in class checkin you out too ;)
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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whats AMOG mean Alphamale Out Game?? i think this is a "nice" chick though...
 

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and how do you suggest i do that?...what would you guys do in this situation?
 

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Talk to the both of them or you could try and befriend the guy.
Yeah, just shutting this guy out is going to be too tough. You're going to have to make some guess about her ("are your from . . .?" "Are you Polish?", something like that). You've got to slip in some short little question the 5 seconds you have.

Then ask "how do you two know eachother". Start talking from there with both of them. Most likely, he's an AFC barnacle that glues himself to her to block other guys while he waits for a chance that never comes. But you never know.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Maybe this ugly douce has got game and he comes to this website where he developed his jedi powers to charm women despite his unfortunate bad luck at birth.

Obviously you see this ugly as easy competition... and yet, you don't have the prize... I would read the DJ bible for starters and start working on your own game.
 
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