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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

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HB 8 First Date, then a long cruise...advice?

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Hey guys, seeking some quick input on a date idea.

Background
We met at a bar, friend of a friend. HB8. Brought her home, 1st/2nd base, didn't F-close. Contacted her for a date, she seemed flakey. Got back to me and is interested. We have a date setup Wednesday night, bowling at 8:00.

Date Idea
What do you think about eating first (is 8:00 too late for that), then bowling, then bar? Should I shoot for a certain time to end it if it doesn't escalate?

The Cruise
Thing is, she is going on a week long cruise with some girlfriends a few days after our date. No matter how "good" you are, I know what that entails haha! Obviously will be other men. I think the goal is to get her to think about me a lot on the cruise...right? I'm not jealous or trying to get her to commit. She can have her fun, I just need advice. It's a unique situation.

What are your thoughts?
*What should I do different on the 1st date to get a 2nd date, if I'm interested? I will do usual kino, neg, C&F, etcc....I mean what's unique to this situation?
*When should I call/text her? Before, during, after the cruise or wait for her to contact me. My gut says after.
*Any advice you've got for this situation.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I worked on cruise ships for 7 years. She will be fvcking somebody when she is away. Count on it.

Don't take her too seriously, and wear a dome.
 

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SSBS said:
I worked on cruise ships for 7 years. She will be fvcking somebody when she is away. Count on it.

Don't take her too seriously, and wear a dome.
Thanks for the advice. That's pretty much what I figured. I don't think I'm "taking her too seriously" though. I'm just wondering if this situation calls for something unique, or just play the game as usual.
 

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217 said:
Thanks for the advice. That's pretty much what I figured. I don't think I'm "taking her too seriously" though. I'm just wondering if this situation calls for something unique, or just play the game as usual.
Always play the game as usual. You can't switch up your style for special "she's going on a cruise game" or "she's going away for a week game". Too much stress.

Do your thing. And if that's not good enough for her, then f**k it.
 

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Forget calling or texting her while she is on the cruise. Her cell phone either won't work once she's out to sea, or even if it did, she might end up with expensive roaming charges anyway.

Plus it would seem like you were checking up on her to make sure she's not scoring with another dude, which she probably is anyway.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Just focus on nothing more than having a good time with her and do yourself a favor and forget about her while she is on this cruise.

Good chance she may get weird and flakey after it too case sometimes a little slot of seperation thrown in early on like this will do that.
 

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You are.over thinking this way too much. You really think because she's.going on a.cruise after a date that she's a unique situation? Im telling you now. Get out of this mentality that you are in and go do something else. Im telling you right now, you are obviously way too.emotionally involved to be thinking about her like this. I assure you, you need to do the opposite of what you are currently doing. Because you are probably showing neediness and desperation. As you have yet to even date her yet. With that said....do not text her the entire time she is on this cruise. Wait for her to text you. Do your best on the date and go ghost.
 
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