havent really closed afer 1 and half thousand sets in 12 months WHY???

[KEYS]

been in this for over a year haven't really closed

i can do long sets and get positive reactions 99% of time

i am 39

i mainly do daygame now

what the **** went wrong?

are u good? are u getting laid?
if u are anewbie and u try to **** me i will suss u out in 10 seconds flat so don't bother

i need a real mentor
someone who can give me advice on MSN now and again

i have transformed in many ways i know my **** (RSD M3 model some RJ)
i am very well groomed i am even sort of good lookin

but i dont know what the **** is goin on?

 

[MatureDJ]

Try hitting on ugly women.

 

[KEYS]

Several questions...

1) What is your definition of close?
2) How 'far' do you normally get?
3) With RSD, did you actually go to a training session or did you just do the e-book?

(1)
close is anything (however 1 F close someone i knew in work offered to be my FB) but i got a couple of emails recently

and i got a myspace adress last summer from a cold approach

nearly had aday 2 out of it

(2) so far overall usually a good vibe going,fun and after 10 minutes or so i go for the close and get politlely refused

(3) just saw the DVDs /e books

 

[Dongfu]

(1)(2) so far overall usually a good vibe going,fun and after 10 minutes or so i go for the close and get politlely refused

Go for what close - #, email, f-close? Just anything doesn't constitute a close. Emails and #'s are useless if you haven't created a positive charge on your end.

I took a Tai Chi class the other day with a friend. He made a demonstration by picking up one end of a rope and shaking it side to side. This created S-waves from his hand, through the rope along the ground and out the end. Then he said watch what happens when I drop this end. Everything stopped. The wave that just left his hand did not make it to the other side of the rope. Without a positive connection, nothing happens, all the energy stops.

Whether it's ten minutes in or two weeks, you have to keep that tension and energy field flowing between you and your target. Otherwise she is just at the end of a dead rope and says, "no thanks I got a boyfriend," or whatever.

It sounds like you are getting some waves going, and then dropping the rope to grab the girl at the other end. Of course there is nothing there.

I would also like to add that I dont like the word "close" We should say F-open, #-open, etc. You are opening her mind, imagination, attraction circuits, and finally her body.

 

[KEYS]

the rope

the energy

the grab then it goes

i liekit

 

[RecoveringAFC]

As a female friend of mine told me last night, it's about charisma. Show some confidence, energy, depth. Be interesting.

Don't try to close too early. If a woman's not feeling it don't try to kiss close just yet. Nothing turns them off more. I find once I kiss close they're mine. That sometimes takes 1-3 dates though.

Personally, I'm not a big fan of random pickups. I'd rather meet someone and get to know them a little before asking them out. Maybe that's seeing a girl a few times in the coffee shop I have lunch, one of my client's employees, whatever. I then ask them out.

 

[Entropy4]

If you've done over 1,000 approaches with only 1 full close, then something is majorly wrong. If you've studied every program and done that many sets, it's not your mechanics or technique.

You need to find someone better than you to SEE YOU in field. It doesn't even have to be a professional, even a local guy who is very good. I suspect you have some serious inner game/frame control issues going on that you're not even aware of.

Feel free to E-Mail me if you want to find out more.

 

[joekerr31]

this has to be a troll.

1500 approaches is like 4 a day, everyday, for a year straight.

give me a break.

 

[kingwilliam]

What kind of close do you expect during daygame? I hate the acronyms and jargon.

It sounds to me like you should join an online dating community.

 

[afrojiggles]

Your A Big Time Chump, Get Ano Babe Who Is Worth Your Time......or U Fantasy About Her Turning Around All This Time And Giving U A Bj Of Your Time Just Coz U Hanged Around Miserably For Her !!!

 

[AgonyUncle]

Holy crap. The law of averages says that you should be getting somewhere. Even a hunchback with bad breath would have more success then this.

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