"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Haven't posted here in awhile, but now I'm stumped

The Comeback Kid

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What's up guys? I know I haven't posted here in awhile, as I've been taking my mind off trying too hard to attract girls and just chillin' outside of work this summer. However, I'm absolutely baffled about a girl situation and I figure I could get a little guidance here.

This past weekend, a few of my parents' college friends came over for our annual summer get-together. I was feeling good about it once I saw HB8 was there. You see, HB8 (and her slightly younger sister) don't make it here every year, but when they are here I hang out with them for the day (more on HB8 later in the post), and usually it's pretty cool.

One major difference this year was from my end - I have been hitting the gym hard the past year and a half, so I went from scrawny to "jacked," a term HB8 and her sis actually used. I've also become more confident in myself, and it shows in how I present myself. Things were going well at the start - we caught up with each other, HB8 was using some C+F (so of course I did a little too), and then my cell phone started to ring. A few of my buddies wanted to come over since it was a nice day (of course HB8 decided to bust on me with another C+F line and say, "TCK actually has friends?" This changed everything.

Now normally when it comes to my friends and other people, it sometimes takes a little while to accept them (esp. with girls). They're cool guys, but they can also be a little wacky. I told HB8 and her sis they could be a little wild, but it's all in good fun. Also, since I was a host, I told them if my friends and the girls separate, I'll hang with the two girls since I will see my friends later on anyway.

After a little while, my friends and HB8 began talking (her sis was taking a nap), and oddly...they were getting along right away! We all had a nice chat for awhile, everyone had a few jokes, and then HB8, her sis, my friends, and myself played a fun game of volleyball (and then ate and then went back into the pool). As the day was nearing the end, I figured I'd be curteous and, since they probably overheard anyway and were right there, mention to them our other friend was throwing some sort of party that night. Well...I didn't actually expect them to say yes! :crazy: HB8 and her sis apparently wanted to go, but they couldn't. First off, they live just over an hour away. More importantly, HB8 had work early the next day and told me if I gave her a head's up a few days in advance, she could have called out of work.

That's not all. Also before leaving, HB8 and I both suggested to each other that we hang out more often. She said the next time my friends and I go out to a party, give her a few days notice and she'll be there. Or if we take a day trip to the big beach by her house, stop in front of her house (and call of course a little in advance) and as long as she's off work, she'd come. :cool: In a week and a half, my buddy is throwing a party at his house, so I'll call HB8 (of course I remembered to get her # ;) ) a few days in advance - she went to visit some college girl friends this week so I'd call her after she gets back.

As I write all this, one question comes to mind...could she possibly be INTERESTED in me? As unlikely as that seems (it's hard for me to even believe it), it's not out of the question. I mean, I've seen her almost once every year for awhile when our families meet up (and I talk to her every once in a while on Facebook), but never have we seriously considered hanging out aside from that, until now that is. As I realized this year, we click extremely well, and she seems amazing. Finally, HB8 (and her sis) acted as if we know each other extremely well, even though I only see them about once a year.

Of course, I still think maybe it's just b/c we're "family friends." She's generally a nice person, and we've always gotten along. Also hurting me here is that we go back to college in a month and I do live just over an hour from her (although the ride really isn't that bad). I also tend to get ahead of myself and not read the signs so well.

SO, what do you guys think? I actually do have something to lose here if I make a move and she says no, since our families know each other and somehow word will spread to my parents (who will most likely obsess about it) and everything will get awkward. She could just be a nice person since we're family friends and only see each other only once a year. However, the fact we realized we're quite similar and click extremely well + she is one of the few girls (her sis too) to like my friends from the get-go + her willingness to hang out and party with me (and my friends) more this summer, so much so that she wished I told her about that one party earlier = hmm...
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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AKA FLEX

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Dude, swing for the fences. It sounds like you've got a really good shot, and even if by some fluke you get rejected and it spreads to your parents, WHO CARES? Do you think they never got rejected when they were single?

The only way you'll look back and regret this situation in the future is if you do nothing and let a possible opportunity slip through the cracks.
 

Scars

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Sounds like she is interested. Just remember to warn her a few days in advanced like she asked, and go hang out with her. It's better to go for it and get rejected than to sit there wondering what could have been.
 

I.A.F.Y.B.

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Does she like you or your friends? Either way why not give it a shot.
 

The Comeback Kid

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I.A.F.Y.B. said:
Does she like you or your friends? Either way why not give it a shot.
Yep - as I wrote in the post, she does like them. The thing I found interesting about this is that oftentimes, it takes a little while to get to know my friends, she somehow did this in half an hour.

As for the other replies, obviously I'm going to call her next week to invite her to my friend's party. If she decides to go, then I'd say she could be interested (if she doesn't flake). I understand the thing with my parents and how our parents are friends, but the next year's get-together will become a date I'd rather avoid, something I don't want. Of course if it does work, then I don't care how my parents treat the situation. :up:

The thing that stuns me here...all of a sudden, after one day, this girl could possibly be interested. I'm still not convinced that she actually be interested - there could also be a good chance she's just like this because we're "family friends" who meet almost once a year, talk from time to time on Facebook, and we've never talked about hanging out aside from this get-together in years past.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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