"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Have you ever had a first date in the morning?

El Payaso

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If not, would you try it? Why or why not?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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For a first date I will usually be prepared and do as much as I can to set things up so that it turns out well for me. Not every woman you go on a first date with will go for you - the odds may be against you even if you are really handsome and have really good game.

In my book night time dates are the best but if there is no other way then day time dates could also probably work. Anything is possible with proper game. You will perhaps need to work harder during the day time to get her attracted. If you don't get her attracted on the first date you will probably not see her again. (If she did not have fun)

I will usually want to meet a woman for the first time at night because it builds a greater expectation in her. There usually is more time at night (nobody has to go back to work) and if things go really well we could move to another venue (to give me more time to seduce her and make it seem as if she's known me longer) ... At night if things go really well she could come home with me or I could go home with her.

At night time you could also pick a spot with a nice atmosphere - helping you set a relaxed mood. If you're a bit old and ugly like me then a nice spot with dimmed lighting can mask it... while you display some alpha behaviors to her to get her attracted.
 

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I have had lunch first dates and bedded them. I just treat it like a normal date.
 

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I would be really reluctant to try for a first date. I did it once at a local market but it didn't prove anything as the chick was fugly when she turned up so I couldn't be bothered kinoing at all. I've taken them their for a second dates before but that is different because I try and get them on the back of the motorbike. I found the motorbike is a fairly reliable **** test for me. If they say I hate motorbikes it's just as bad as they say they don't drink. Translation is that they are annoying structured women who are going to make you work way too hard for the puss
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Morning coffee dates work. Sometimes it is good to grab a morning coffee before work with a woman who also works, then invite her over later for a "movie"
 

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This made me think of the other thread about the friend zone mind fvck. And my own post on how women will often say the first date is just as friends. That way if they decide they don't like you then "they never 'dated' you". So yeah I guess I have had first dates in the morning . Cuz I've went out with women the night before, for the first time ,"as friends" and woke up with them naked in my bed at 7am after I friend zone mind fvcked them into having sex.
 

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This made me think of the other thread about the friend zone mind fvck. And my own post on how women will often say the first date is just as friends. That way if they decide they don't like you then "they never 'dated' you". So yeah I guess I have had first dates in the morning . Cuz I've went out with women the night before, for the first time ,"as friends" and woke up with them naked in my bed at 7am after I friend zone mind fvcked them into having sex.
Lmfao.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Desdinova

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Yeah, I think I've done it a few times. It's just how our schedules lined up. The problem is most women like to "sleep in" in the morning. I'm a morning person, so I'm happy and annoying as hell at the beginning of the day.
 

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Yes, it's like any other date, fun, romantic, and increasing my chance at hooking up. The time doesn't change the game
 

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I've done morning brunch on a weekend. Like 10/11:00.

You just got to make sure they are a good laugh.

Although I will say I've never bedded anyone from a brunch date.
 

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Sure... I'll do Commander's Palace Sunday brunch sometimes. It all depends. If I'm taking a women to a Saints game, we'll do brunch, game, then whatever happens after... It starts in the morning then I just play it by ear.
 
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