"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Have you ever encountered this potential red flag?

TheCWord

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Can't quite decipher this one... Seems to me like a possible interest flag...

One of my plates, who I've been seeing for over a month, is great in that every time I text her to make a date (which has worked out to be once a week) she replies super fast, enthusiastically, and readily accepts without ever asking for another day, suggesting another activity, or anything like that.

She shows up with a bottle of wine. We always have lots to talk about. When we walk she latches on to my arm. If we go to dinner she wants to split it. And the sex is INSANE.

This girl does nothing but give me indications of really high interest and does so consistently......EXCEPT for the fact that she never initiates plans or even sends a text during the week.

I wouldn't have thought this to be a big deal for me, as I subscribe to the philosophy of only using text to setup dates, but I feel like if I just never texted her again, we'd never go out again, and after almost two months of dating, that ain't cool. Another plate of mine will send me a random text or email if she hasn't heard from me in a couple days and that's just personally something I like.

I'm backing off for the moment and not texting her, not making plans. Curious to see what happens on one hand, but on the other hand I feel like I'm testing her - seems more like something a woman would do.

All "she's riding the **** carousel" responses welcome.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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You're getting emotionally invested bro. Otherwise you wouldn't give a sh!t.

As long as she is available when you want her its all good. She doesn't need to initiate. She probably understands you have other plates and doesn't want to text you at a bad time.

Either way.. I wouldn't worry about this at all unless I wanted a real relationship with her. Believe it or not.. some women are happy being plates. They don't want a relationship (at least with you). Some are career women and don't have the time. They just want their brains f*cked out once or twice a week and nothing more. Enjoy. :up:

Remember --> Its the woman's job to "bond". Its your job to f*ck. If she doesn't get emotionally attached.. then just keep f*cking her. Who cares?
 

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TheCWord said:
This girl does nothing but give me indications of really high interest and does so consistently......EXCEPT for the fact that she never initiates plans or even sends a text during the week.
Could be a myriad of things...
-Shy/Traditional Girl
-She is dating multiple guys
-She's interested but still unsure
-etc

Bottom line....DONT WORRY ABOUT IT. I wouldnt change a thing. It takes a girl close to 2 months to really start "liking a guy". So your only job is to plan dates and make sure you have fun + have sex. Let her interest level rise on its own(Cake in the Oven Principle). I really wouldnt "experiment" by not texting her, just because I like what you're doing currently.

To answer your question, I would not consider it a red flag. Perhaps you have thoughts a of a relationship(and its completely normal) and that part of your mind is starting to see that as a barrier to a relationship. Just remember...its not your job to secure an exclusive relationship, he11 to even THINK about one. Just keep having fun with her, and once her interest level rises above a certain point, she will seek exclusivity. AT THAT POINT....you may consider it.
 

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I've had this type before and thought exactly like you did. So I got tired of being the initiator and stopped asking her out. When I did, the girl noticed and was taken back. She thought I didn't want to go out with her anymore.

I'd guess it stems from being a little insecure and wanting a man to lead.

Keep doing as you have and don't worry about it.
 
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Great advice from all three. Thanks Play, Ex and Howie. I'll keep things as they are.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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