"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Have others stood in your way of being a Don Juan?

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Getting laid is often hard enough as is for some guys and do it consistently takes a lot of commitment. Have friends and other people in society stood in your way? If so, how?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Ohhhhh yes, many, many times. Whats worse is that sometimes its family!

I grew in a lower middle-class family where perfect was never good enough, that's a killer right there. I wasn't encouraged or rewarded for doing good, it was expected. That changed when they realized there was a problem, I broke down in school once when I was far younger because I made a B+ on a test.

Ive had more than one occasion where i would be hanging out in our social circle which included my cousin. He was probably the worst about making snide remarks on my looks (i work out and could stand to lean out some more, but has severe trouble controlling his weight), me not having a girl while he did, you get the picture. His standards in women are a far cry from mine, he'll take any slutty pvssy, and I typically only enjoy women of slightly higher value, nor have I ever felt the NEED for a woman. Granted, this only happened while women were around, especially ones who were obviously intetested in me. This was a major hit to my ego, my game, and my general well-being. I finally came to the assumption that he made attempts to lower my value, therefore attemping to increase his. I just hung around him less and learned to shrug insults off otherwise, I learned my value. He has since stopped doing such things in my presence. He really isn't an awful feller, and would give you the shirt off his back otherwise. His ego may have been bruised at one point as well, a few of his crushes have migrated towards me on a few occasions.

My slightly younger brother has as well, although far more rare. I usually just called him out on his ****.

Most of my friends have always been very supportive of me though, I choose them wisely.

A lot of these things were hard hits on the ego and self esteem, but I'm on top of my education, career, health, and finances now. You live learn, and get over that crap. Not to mention, I may not be a ladies man, but I don't do too badly eigther.:whistle:
 

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haha this reminds me when i was in high school, living at my parents, and after a while of me bringing home random girls, my mom shook her head and told me, she does not mind, but i should not expect her to know every girls name :)))
that time i stood in my way to being a dj, by being shy, and playing too safe. i've had my share of girls even so, but i could have done waaaay better if i had more balls.
now it is better, but still very much to learn.
 

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I've been c0ckblocked, had people try to damage my confidence or undermine me, but ultimately my biggest obstacle in becoming a DJ is and has always been me.

Time after time, I've returned here after learning a hard lesson, learned the ways of Don Juan and seduction, applied it to great success, but then let my guard down at a later point because I got it into my head that these principles don't apply to a particular girl or situation...and then I fail again!
 

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ultimately my biggest obstacle in becoming a DJ is and has always been me.

This^

Quit making excuses. Quit blaming family, friends, strangers, animals, etc and just get it done and own the sh1t out of life.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Jariel said:
ultimately my biggest obstacle in becoming a DJ is and has always been me

Yup. As someone who has been there (was awful in high school) to being someone on the other side of the fence, this rings far truer than anything else, and you may not even be able to fully comprehend it, but this is how it is.
 
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"OMG QUIT BLAMING STUFF BRO"

ya so not PUA right there

sure you take responsibility for your own mistake but don't act like others can't legitimately stop you even if you are at the top of your game
 

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ya so not PUA right there

Your right...Im not a loser, oops i mean Pick up artist

but don't act like others can't legitimately stop you even if you are at the top of your game

See pal, thats the difference between people like you and people like me. When someone "messes" with you or "c0ckblocks" you, it affects you on a mental level and destroys all of your chances. Whereas people like me dont let outside things influence MY SUCCESS.

Go ahead, I challenge you...how can family or friends stand in my way of getting laid?
 

Tomo

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Woman, particularly those I used to orbit telling me 'they can't pin point something but I have changed'.

Friends - have a few white knights friends that while they'd take a bullet for you, still put woman on a pedastal and what not even after how I tell them woman should be treated.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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You cannot read, what the **** is your problem? This thread is about how others stood in your way of being a Don Juan and also how you overcame it. Not for you to spread your happy go lucky PUA bull****, GTFO.
 
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