Have I hooked this one? i think i got a nibble.

[cfdagola]

First of all i'm not new here. actually I've been frequenting this board for quite some time. i always lurked and eventually with some of the sound advice from this forum i ended up getting a pretty solid relationship.

the only reason it ended was on mutual grounds and distance. She got a promotion i didn't want to go with. end of discussion.

but after being out of the game for so long. its hard to pick up on signs. the game never really changes though you just get a little rusty at picking up on things.

so this is what i got. KINDA LONG THOUGH. I got cliffnotes at the bottom.

HB 8.5 this girl.. wow i mean pretty much out of my league she broke up with her boyfriend which she told me about him. i kinda laughed at his childish antics and she was getting fed up with him since probably before i even knew her. We've had classes on and off for about 2 years now. Although we've never talked as we have this semester. she pretty much follows me around campus like i have a pet dog or something. (not in a bad way ladies). regardless i asked her why are you with somebody that is exactly opposite of you. you wanna smoke. drink and have fun. then do it. why ***** about not being able to do it. She broke up with him the next day.

she'll wait for me after classes and i'll do the same though. when i'm leaving before her because i just need to get someplace fast she goes what you're not going to walk with me?

she always plays the dumb role also i know she's a smart girl but she asks me question she can easily answer.

Whenever i invite her to say, lunch. she'll jump all over it. granted i seldom do considering i'm busy and so is she.. at least i think she's busy.

CONSTANTLY primping herself around me. I've tried to see if she does it on her own. she doesn't only when she's near me does she endlessly toy with her hair or check her appearance.

Constantly ask what i think of her appearance. like what she should do with her hair etc. Takes my opinion's critically i said she has kinda a square face. because she has such a strong jaw line. She thought i was making fun of her.

The other day for lunch i invited her out to have lunch with me and a friend she's like i need to change! i look horrible i usually look a lot cuter than this. I'm like why is that all the sudden a problem. we're going to chipotle you look fine dude.

Now all this points to yeah she's probably got some interest in me. but honesty i haven't really tried. and she seems really mysterious occasionally she'll share a story about her past and i can tell she used to be one wild chick. I want to know more about her. But i'm not sure how to proceed.

I think i'm a challenge right now because of my lack of understanding the situation i haven't really invested anything into this but i'm thinking i want to give it a shot.

What do you guys think?

CLIFFNOTES: HB 8.5, takes my opinions critically, exchanged numbers and now contact has graduated to txt instead of Facebook messages. (her move), follows me around campus, always primping herself around me but not by herself. jumps on plans to have lunch or any future plans to possibly hang out she's insinuated she'd be up for it.

 

[cfdagola]

i also just want to add.

I've shown a lot of social proof although indirectly.

I've made a lot of friends at school since heading back and really pumping out the classes.

but we're in the same degree program so when i walk with her through the halls i stop to say hi to all the other pretty females I've met through my time before i started talking to her.

she's even made a comment about it. "why does everybody remember you but not me.." i'm like i just have that boyish charm and she kinda laughs.

also while hanging outside the building with her at school I've demonstrated how easy it is to say hi to somebody if you're interested at least twice once was by accident when i said all it takes is "hey what's up"

and this hot chick apparently heard me turned and smiled at me. I wasn't the one to notice though. she did and pointed it out.

not sure why i feel this is relevant but i think it is.

 

[sighsigh]

So what's the problem? Ask her out. Her IL seems to be high enough.

 

[cfdagola]

So what's the problem? Ask her out. Her IL seems to be high enough.

is it bad if i say i don't know how? lol

i mean do i say.. hey i'm in town wanna stop up at the bar with some friends? i mean dinner and a movie is played out.

you know i may tomorrow ask if her if she wants to go get some coffee at this pretty nice place just near campus maybe we can have a more in depth conversation.

the close has always been a tough spot for me i can open up the sale. get the customer (chick in this case) foaming at the mouth. but when it comes to just telling the person to sign on the line. i choke up. always have.

 

[sighsigh]

You really should read more PUA material, then. The DJ bible and the Book of Pook should have good info about this sort of stuff. Anyways, it's a really simple process.

Just simply tell her 'give me your phone number and we'll hang out sometime.' Then, call her in a couple days later and tell her something like 'I'm thinking of doing [activity] on [date] and it'd be cool if you could come and have some fun with me. It's at [time].'

Keep your initial dates short, informal, and revolving around a fun action activity like pool.

 

[Trump]

is it bad if i say i don't know how? lol

i mean do i say.. hey i'm in town wanna stop up at the bar with some friends? i mean dinner and a movie is played out.

you know i may tomorrow ask if her if she wants to go get some coffee at this pretty nice place just near campus maybe we can have a more in depth conversation.

Bro don't invite her to anything with any friends, she doesn't deserve to meet your friends yet. Plus, she'll be so distracted at a bar by what your friends are doing and saying to her she'll forget about you. Only after you have had sex a few times then you start to hang out with friends.

In depth conversation will not get her juices flowing, it will bore her. Young girls want to feel some emotion, have fun. Isolate her and make a move, otherwise you will be no different than her brother or other classmates.

 

[Kbomb]

You should also slowly start to notice her sexually. Act as if you didn't see it before and little by little start amping up the physicality. Otherwise she will think you were acting all along and not genuine about your attraction. If you jump the gun she will feel like you were acting disinterested in a dishonest way.

 

[cfdagola]

so i wanted to put a quick update.

honestly coutner to the advice i asked if she wanted to get some coffee after class before i went home. in reality that's all I wanted to do I figured I would slowly amp up the sexuality by touching her more while in conversation and honestly i'm trying to crack this lock she's got on her life.

Although the more i know about her. The more she seems this destitute woman who really has a poor outlook on life.

parents are poor. could give a crap less that she's in school (she literally told me they dont' care about her schooling)

Parents are divorced. not a good relationship with any of them.

hates sleeping at home because its terrible and "uncomfortable" She she sleeps at her gay friends house or other random girl friends.

I could go on. but let me do that in just a second.

So I asked if she wanted to go after class to get some coffee she was like absolutley. I said cool just meet me outside the buisness building. and we'll go after i get out at 1:45.

well there i am in lecture its about 1:20 and i notice she's waiting for me already. (i got a good angle on the doorway) i'm thinking WOW dude.. her class let out early. if she waits for me that's the only thing i need to know. because that's a 25 minute wait.

Well she didn't she got on her phone after waiting about 5 minutes. and then shortly afterwards. she txted and said she wouldn't be able to meet for coffee. she said a friend of her's who borrowed her car needed to do something and she needs to get her car back. (i've actually confirmed this because i've seen it in action that the friend borrows her car. because he totaled his awhile back and can't afford another)

I was kinda disappointed but and i contemplated not even responding back. considering she didn't offer a counter offer. And that's a red flag but instead all i said was "ok."

Next day in class which would be today. i felt tension like no other i was actually late because of parking and the class was gathered for a demo by the instructor. But the tension i could feel between the room was the kind you could cut through with a knife. for awhile i slurped on my coffee intentionally not wanting to look her direction. i saw her throwing glances. but i kept talking to the girls beside me who were enjoying my whisper conversation.

Then i caught her glance directly by accident and she smiled. I smiled back. and the tension i felt dissipated instantly. Class went on as usual.

She came over to my desk (which is across the classroom) and asked for my help about something. i helped her out. and she metnioned she wanted to go out and smoke. We did. while we're out there.

she let slip more personal information. Saying her life is terrible right now. that her room is terrible and all she does is goes home and sits on her bed in this crap room that has dark covers over the molded wooden walls. and then she calls up her gay friend and they get high. and then she goes out to drink with her girlfriends until the early morning and passes at out one of their houses.

She feels angry and frustrated with everything. but when i asked her why. a couple of my friends came out to smoke with me when they noticed i was out there. I immediatly and without actually thinking about it. said "HEYYYY" and the convo between me and her ended and she sorta hushed up. after her cigarette because i was talking with my buds. she said she was going back upstairs. Although my one buddy did introduce himself to her she seemed shy. but I don't believe this girl IS shy.. but then again she's a mystery to me still.

I dunno man. I'm so long out of the game i can't tell if this chick likes me or not? Maybe right now she's to damaged. or maybe she's never met somebody like me. a STRAIGHT male guy who she can click with easily. I swear its like a puzzle. each time a piece gets placed but it still looks like a mess.

I will say this. I feel she may like me more now than before her flakeing out on me. is that weird? because i've not seen her lit up and this personable since trying to escalate things slowly.

 

[Harry Wilmington]

Oh the desperation!

I'm not even going to try and give advice on how to get her 'cause she's not woth getting. In fact, she sounds downright depressing. There has to be a better option out there for you to go for.

Either her life is complete crap, or she's telling you all this in hopes you won't want her (cause if she wanted you she'd be trying to hide this stuff in the beginning). Either way, even if she liked you she'd be a bad relationship candidate. Move on, man, and have confidence that you can find better!

 

[cfdagola]

Oh the desperation!

I'm not even going to try and give advice on how to get her 'cause she's not woth getting. In fact, she sounds downright depressing. There has to be a better option out there for you to go for.

Either her life is complete crap, or she's telling you all this in hopes you won't want her (cause if she wanted you she'd be trying to hide this stuff in the beginning). Either way, even if she liked you she'd be a bad relationship candidate. Move on, man, and have confidence that you can find better!

that's the problem 90% of the stuff she has kept hidden. i'm sure there's a lot more tragedy involved in her life that i have no idea about. she's a VERY. and i stress VERY private person. its not like she's just "spilling the beans" on me. i sorta coax it outta her. But you have given me insight as to why she is as private as she is.

despite it all we have a business relationship that i would rather keep going. i didn't include that in the text here but she brings me in a lot of money monthly. upwards to 560+ dollars a month all profit for me and 0 labor hours going out. US currency for those in the UK. what i'm saying is in short this woman is not just some run of the mill HB. and somebody i've known for at least 2 years. on and off considering we only know each other from college.

but that's neither here nor there. i should just keep it professional though i suppose.

desperation it is not. i could care less what's going on with this women. but that doesn't mean i wouldn't want to have my chance at it. I just have a hard time spotting the signs having been out of the game for so long. I let me serious relationship of 2 years go without batting an eyelash.

 

[Purefilth]

Dont mess with the money.
Currency comes first - keep your relationship with her as it is and keep collecting coin.
Look for something else, if she's interested then she'll probably take the bait and chase you. If she isn't bothered, then youve moved on and not messed with the income.

 

[cfdagola]

Dont mess with the money.
Currency comes first - keep your relationship with her as it is and keep collecting coin.
Look for something else, if she's interested then she'll probably take the bait and chase you. If she isn't bothered, then youve moved on and not messed with the income.

that's probably the most sound advice.

i think you're probably right. its hard not getting caught up in the possibilities. but that's the reason why she's around and how she brings in the money. Her attractiveness is literally a profit for me. (and no i'm not her pimp)

i find it very alluring about her that she has a dark side. girls that are willing to dirty their hands for the sake of making easy cash on suckers is such a turn on for me its beyond compare.

but you're right.. keep the coin moving and maybe things will just land as they do. besides her ex boyfriend is in constant repair mode. that's stress i don't want/need and he also has no idea our arrangement either.