"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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have i blown it?

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can some women just forget messages they receive?

i was thinking that say u send a HB a text and she's sleeping and cos shes a HB she must get loads of msgs.. she might have gotten woken up by the msg read it then forgot about it after.. or is this naive?

im just thinking that girls may get msgs which they intend to reply to but end up forgetting.. or is the distinction that if she's looking to see u she won't forget to reply to something like that even if it's later on.

cos i've sent her this msg 1/2 an hour after her one last night.. if i dont get a reply from her i presume it's a weak move to remind her on sunday on the day if we're on..? (we're still assuming here that when she told me to choose a day i'm in that train of thought.. tho i guess if she isn't on that thought then me being on that presumption isn't going to help sway her decision if i keep reminding her about her carte blanche offer of a day)
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Your procrastinating far far too much about this chick... you haven't even met her, she could be a right gimp for all you know... The best way to look at this (opposed to just walking away) is to switch roles - in the past, when you received a text (or 5) from a HB and didnt reply - or replied intermittently what was the reason for this?

This should give you your answer.

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i see.. i guess if she's interested in seeing you she'll reply eventually.. cos i can only compare it to myself where if i receive a text from someone while im sleeping my automatic reaction is to read it then delete it and go back to sleep.. then i wonder the next day did i dream it and can't remember who sent me the text.

in a role reversal if she gets loads of texts.. something similar may happen? nah.. probably just wishful thinking.

the thing is it hasn't been a load of texts.. it was one yesterday morning making the assumption we were meeting in an hour and worded as such. then the 1 after explaining the confusion and hopefully didn't stood her up (the 1st one could have been misconstrued that i was meeting some other girl and sent it to her by accident - i've done this before with girls of simliar names lol) and that i was busy the day after next but tomorrow would be ok.

she counters with she cant and leaves it with the dreaded words of 'take care' with no recourse of a counter offer..

am i still able to be on the presumption when i text her that i can still choose any day i want cos she said that previously?

i keep referring to that in my text last night.. but i guess i can't milk it forever and it's not like it's set in stone.

situation is she had high interest level.. which now has dramatically dropped. hopefully if im lucky the fact i replied to her text so soon last night won't hurt my absolute chances.. but i do guess i need to ease off for a week.

long story short.. if a girl suspects you're keen.. and then you back away and ease off is it still too late?
 

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I set up the date, and it's final. I don't do conformations. I show up, and if she doesn't show, then I move on. I've never had one stand me up, but that's the way I roll. I don't really even talk to them in the mean time because I want to talk on the date. I hate talking on the phone.

You need to stop putting so much into it. You ask 'em out and go out. If she doesn't want to, then you move on to the next one. You're taking it as if you're not good enough, and your ego is telling you that you have to go out with her.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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yeah i hear you.. but i dont know if it's different in your town but it's not exactly socially acceptable to internet date where i am..

generally the consensus is that dudes off the internet are random creeps.. thats why you see all over sosuave preaching not to internet date etc etc.
 

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pete101 said:
yeah i hear you.. but i dont know if it's different in your town but it's not exactly socially acceptable to internet date where i am..

generally the consensus is that dudes off the internet are random creeps.. thats why you see all over sosuave preaching not to internet date etc etc.
One reason they say it is because you've got to be desperate to internet date because all you have to do is ask a woman to her face when you're out and about. Another reason is because most of those chicks are desperate, too. Get out there and go for it. You can live your life in seclusion and regret not having anyone or you can go out there and do something about it. I'm really liking dating multiple women. It's far more satisfying than being hung up on one.
 

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tick37 said:
One reason they say it is because you've got to be desperate to internet date because all you have to do is ask a woman to her face when you're out and about. Another reason is because most of those chicks are desperate, too. Get out there and go for it. You can live your life in seclusion and regret not having anyone or you can go out there and do something about it. I'm really liking dating multiple women. It's far more satisfying than being hung up on one.

how do you avoid getting caught?

i already got busted once this week for messaging 2 different girls who weren't on each others friends lists but somehow knew each other.. that made me somewhat sit back and made sure i didn't jeopardise my shot with this 1 but it gave me one-itis in the mean time. :-s
 

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how do you avoid getting caught?

i already got busted once this week for messaging 2 different girls who weren't on each others friends lists but somehow knew each other.. that made me somewhat sit back and made sure i didn't jeopardise my shot with this 1 but it gave me one-itis in the mean time. :-s
As long as you're not tied down, and you're straight up with them, you don't have to worry about getting caught. Women like men that other women want. The more she knows you're out there dating and not willing to be tied down to her, the more she'll want you.

You should be more worried about whether these girls are ruining their shot with you rather than ruining your shot with them.
 

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ok she didn't get back to me..

but i winged it and decided to call her just now after reading some tips on here, had everything all set up c+f had her laughing.. too much talk admittedly about boring stuff like what you do etc but hopefully the laughter offset it.

i read somewhere to keep the convo to 20mins max so at 17mins i went for the date close, and suggested a time/day she gave me a yes but couldn't let me know till tomorrow cos friends are suppose to be visiting and staying the night but should be gone by the next day when we're suppose to meet..

the thing is i didn't like this answer and i pushed for a definite time later in the week so there was no cancellation.. but she insisted that tuesday should be fine but we kept going back and forth about when the best time should be..

how do you respond to stuff like this? do you just accept the 'i'll let you know tomorrow' answer?

i know it'll probably be like yeah she wont let you know now.. and i f'd up a bit cos this went on for another 20 mins talking about other stuff but then eventually got back to arranging the time again, the thing is where we're suppose to meet i have to go anyway cos i got a prior engagement there so it's convenient meeting her after.

is the likely response is that she'll cancel on me? cos i did the AFC thing of saying 'well if you dont know for definite for tuesday then lets choose a definite time later in the week' she then kept going on about 'no no tuesday should be fine but i'll let you know tomorrow'

it's one of these convos i dont like how they drag on.. how do you close these conversations?

cos i kept repeating myself again and again.. where the point was she said to me 'yes i know you're going to be there anyway.. i remember now.'
 
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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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what do i do if she cancels tomorrow?

like in theory she should offer another time.. but if she doesn't when should i call back to arrange it?
 
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