"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Introvert/extrovert are not mutually exclusive in the individual. There are times when I am entirely extroverted and vice-versa, dependent upon, believe it or not, testosterone levels. Might sound like an absurd theory, however, having been on HRT therapy intermittently throughout my life, I err to the side of complete extrovert (socially and alone) when T levels are high, and complete introvert (socially and alone) when T levels are low. Empirically, vert-ness is not psychologically genetic as much as it is physiologically derived.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I changed over the years because before I was real idiot sometimes:). But back then, I didn't care. Now I do. Guess that comes with age. :) :p
 

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guru1000 said:
I err to the side of complete extrovert (socially and alone) when T levels are high, and complete introvert (socially and alone) when T levels are low. Empirically, vert-ness is not psychologically genetic as much as it is physiologically derived.
Interesting. I know I don't really like being around people when I feel like crap. I probably enjoyed socializing most in my 20s, and I'm sure my T levels were higher then. I'm not really talking about behavior so much as personality types, however. Ever take a personality test? Like I said, I'm an INTJ.

As an introvert, I can be quite social. But at some point, I get fed up with being around people (run out of energy). The effect is that people start to really get on my nerves and I need to get away from them. The better I know the people, the less they tend to drain my energy, however.
 

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Part 2: Have any one changed from Nice Guy to Chad Thundercawk.

I would like to see you guys input on this one
 

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I can't say I was the quintessential nice guy. I was definitely on a better level than most when I first started coming here.

But my mentality shifted since 2010 and maybe a bit before that.

I realized, the more I cared about myself versus women and the less I tried to get women, the more successful I was with them. Now, it's all about me first, and then maybe them second. When I say maybe, it's because that can shift around with career, education, socializing, etc...
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Can't say that I was ever nice, nor in scarcity. But, I certainly was never sheetting out HB9s like now ... It's a joke.
 

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I've come full circle lately. I found this site in late 2005 after my brother told me to check it out at age 24. I devoted all my time to reading everything written here. I miss the writings of Pook and his blog, his written pieces were good stuff.

Started a blog to chart my AFC to PUA/DJ journey after having oneitis. I was a late bloomer and mostly sheltered my whole life. My dad was successful in business and life, but never quite taught me many lessons as a result of being a workaholic. He was definitely always alpha, leading and selfish, but always needed his ego scratched to a fault. I wanted to be more alpha, but in my own way.

I read Style's The Game, Juggler Method, Mystery Method, etc. and tried to apply principles within the manosphere/MGTOW for a time. I was approachzilla for a while, but got tired of playing tactics and sarging all the time in my 20s. I wanted something more from life than just chasing the ladies.

After my PUA year, I started developing my own interests and not looking to date or get digits. That's when I found my wife... through a mutual hobby. We've been married for nearly seven years, but lately our marriage has been getting pushed closer to the breaking point. That's why I came back here to brush up on being a mature man and following my own pursuits whether my lady stays or not.

I'm in decent shape physically, I lift weights and run/walk almost every day, but as a result of going Beta in my marriage; my attraction level has significantly plummeted in her eyes. I broke the golden rule and put her on a pedestal. So, I'm back here regrouping my confidence and taking up new hobbies again that I want to do and not just what she wants to do.

I can relate on being an introvert like some of you DJs. No matter how many tactics/skills I learn like kino, IOIs, ****y/funny my inner self rooted in place in Nice Guy territory, so I hope to fix that so I can be a Nice Guy who knows how to say no or pass $hit tests when I can tell I'm being $hit tested.
 

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Loved this site. From my teen years and up until divorce I had a lot of alpha traits. After being married for over a decade and then becoming single again I lost my way, everything was new again and this time around I forgot how to be myself. This site definitely reminded me of how women work and I was able to be the old me again. On top of that I was able to learn many new things.

To be honest, now that it has been almost a year since the divorce, I have learned that I could really care less about getting pvssy, I know, weird, but I have other things in life that are more important than tapping that @ss, I've had enough to know that it's all the same, and I just don't crave it like I did when I was younger. I would rather being doing productive things, my hobbies, exploring the world, etc.. if pvssy comes along then great, if not then no loss.

All relationships are now on my terms, and if a woman no longer compliments my life then I'm out, and I let them know in the beginning what I expect from a relationship.
 

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latinnova said:
All relationships are now on my terms, and if a woman no longer compliments my life then I'm out, and I let them know in the beginning what I expect from a relationship.
Good for you man. It sounds like you're controlling the frame. You're the captain of your own ship and are steering the ship where you want it to go. Women can pick up on that confidence and if you keep yourself in decent to better physical shape, good job, etc. then she'll want to pursue you instead of the other way around. :woo:
 

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resilient said:
Good for you man. It sounds like you're controlling the frame. You're the captain of your own ship and are steering the ship where you want it to go. Women can pick up on that confidence and if you keep yourself in decent to better physical shape, good job, etc. then she'll want to pursue you instead of the other way around. :woo:
Exactly. I "truly" no longer care about a relationship. Sure, I like the companionship of a woman, do not get me wrong, but I love my own freedom better. Now that I have my own freedom, I hold all the power in the relationship because I know I can move on and not really give a damn when I get another girl because I am having fun enjoying my own life. The women do definitely pick up on this and want to join in the fun, and we can share this enjoyment until she starts to become a thorn in my side, then I can simply banish that negativity from my life with absolutely no consequences (meaning do not get married, you lose all the power to just walk away without serious financial consequences)
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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