have any of you guys ever got with a super hot HB9 consistently? average looks only

[pete101]

have any of you guys ever got with HB9-10s consistently?

I'm talking about the really super hot model attention wh0re instagram selfie snapping gold diggers.

did you guys run any different sort of game? ideally responses from just average looking guys as any really good looking/hot guys too much may be because of your looks.

reason i ask is i encounter HB9-10s every once in a while like maybe once a year, i'm geneally an opportunist and overachiever so i may end up meeting one for a date or sleeping with one immediately (rarely) did you run any different sort of game?

i find that immediately they give IOIs (giving the number, complimentary) but this is usually fake IOI's ie they're gold diggers, orbiter collecting so put you through the tests.

this one i contacted through tinder/instagram, gave the digits straight off.. i was suspicious already cos her profile was littered with luxury designer gear and her 'modelling' surely wouldn't pay for all that. so i suspected hooker next. then i read the blog of the fashion site she was promoting and it became clearler that she is a gold digger and possibly does exchange money for sex from time to time.. hard to say. however reading the blog about her encounters off tinder or what not that she does have sex with 'hot' guys immediately.. wild party girl etc.

there are too many like this in america, hot, yes you should stay away from but generally want to pound without having to spend x amount of money.. a real test of your pua skills.

how did you average looking guys get the girl and be put in that category of sleeping with 'hot' guys? is that even possible?

it seems you either are an orbiter, sugar daddy, or 'hot' guy categories in their books.

 

[bigneil]

have any of you guys ever got with HB9-10s consistently?

Yes. They cost $300 + tip.

Actually, on average, the girls you date will be within 1 point of your own looks (usually lower than your own). 9's want to date other 9's.

 

[Induced Drag]

Yes. They cost $300 + tip.

:crackup:

It's funny cause it's true.

 

[FairShake]

I've slept with a few 9s and I'm definitely not a 9. I can't compete with guys who are 9s since I'm not shredded, not tan, not blessed in the jockstrap, not clear skinned, etc. Since the 9s already have those and won't get them from me it's important that I can give her things she doesn't already have.

1.) Awesomeness. Demonstrate your skills, whatever they are, to her. Like the Tao of Steve I'm great around kids. 9s have seen me around their nephews or some of the local kids and have been intrigued by my compassion and playfulness. Don't get it twisted, both of those are desired by women and not all men can show them. I also used to play in a band. My music wasn't exactly panty wetting edm or hip hop but our brand of alternative country/rockabilly/folk showed creativity, insight, talent, and passion. All of which modern men with their iphones, video games, gym muscles, and porn seem to lack.

I'm also a mean cook and can fix a leaky faucet. Not exactly sexy but practical and again, something modern dudes can't do that well. A couple "friends of friends" have liked that about me.

2.) Conversation. I can be very charming when in the groove. I can hit the sweet spot between ****y and sweet that is "charm" fairly regularly. Alot of guys think charm is being sweet and adorable or ****y and funny but they are mistaken. Too much of either and you will find yourself wiffing alot. Give them a little drama to your interactions. Be vulnerable and tough. Funny and serious. Bad boy and nice guy. But always interesting.

Essentially I say bad things sometimes but usually do good things. Makes those good things seem even better.

3.) Have fun. Don't plan every move you make in her presence as seduction. 9s are used to guys constantly trying to hit on them. A guy who just has fun and invites her to share his fun is different and attractive. Be a little distant and a little "hard to get." There will be another 9 coming down the pike eventually so don't agonize over this one.

Also it REALLY helps to be fit. I got way more 9s when I didn't have the belly. I have never had shredded muscles but when I didn't look pregnant they were definitely more interested in me. So be fit.

 

[FairShake]

Oh, and dancing. This has worked for me. I'm pretty good for a larger dude. Not breakdancing or some hip hop bullsh!t just moving around to the music. Salsa's good. Women really love a guy who can dance because supposedly that means they can fvck.

 

[bigneil]

Looks mean everything. I know because I've been beautiful and I've been ugly and I've been somewhere in between. I've been too thin and I've been too fat. I've been too insecure at times and I've been too arrogant at others. I've worn 3 piece suits and I've worn cut off jeans. I've been a millionaire and I've been bankrupt. I've lived the whole spectrum and women are ruthless. If they are not approaching you, they don't like you. In the Summer, when I have a tan, my blue eyes stand out more and beautiful women literally throw themselves at me. But in the Winter when I'm paler and I put on a little weight in my chin, I practically feel invisible. Using women as the measuring stick, I've learned you should do everything you can to look better. You're probably right on the line of looking great and don't know it. Therefore:

1) Do at least 25 push ups every day.
2) Try to do as many chin-ups as you can.
3) Practice facial exercises - "high cheek bones" are really tones facial muscles.
4) Remember that your jaw line is everything. The stereotypical handsome man has a huge jaw.
5) Fast and do a liver detox. Your skin will glow after!
6) Eliminate all processed foods.
7) Eliminate all toxic cleaning chemicals, soaps, shampoos and toothpaste, choosing non-toxic alternatives.
8) Buy a home water distiller.
9) Get one hour of sun per day (ideally while working in the sun - the top-down tan highlights your abs while the "laying down like a girl" tan will see you red in front, white in back).
10) Surround yourself with beautiful women. Interact with beautiful women every day. Learn how to talk to beautiful women. Just ask them questions about themselves and listen. You will absorb their essence and other women will sense it.

 

[HowardHughesDicaprio]

Adding to Bigneil's post, go where the 9s are. You won't find many 9s and 10s in hicktown, Florida or San Francisco, gotta move to cities with lots of em.

 

[Don-Kong]

Very rarely.

6's & 7's are so much better, less effort, less stress, more fun.

9's & 10's are trophy b1tches. High maintenance emotional brat like children in sexy bodies. They are sport. Nothing more. The dream of settling with one is like an illusion, a mirage. If you do find one, work hard.

 

[skinnyguy]

I'm talking about the really super hot model attention wh0re instagram selfie snapping gold diggers.

I don't know why you pedestalize these women. Yes they are hot, but you should look for other qualities as well.

I think that pedestalizing these sl*ts killed my self confidence in my 20's. Now I'm trying to correct it by reminding myself that I am the prize.

 

[HowardHughesDicaprio]

Lets not play the denial game here, most of us would be happy to be with a hot instagram type of slut. It is like women denying that they like a Leonardo DiCaprio lookalike when they do want it. I think it unmanly to be in denial. IMO I would love to be with a 9 or 10 but the problem is that they are hard.

For some reason I always envision 9s and 10s as being nicer and more chill than the 6s and 7s because the 6s and 7s get more attention from guys and more come ons too since guys are less intimidated. My interactions with 9s and 10s have gone smoothly but smashing them or even getting into their circles is something else.

I feel like 9s and 10s are superficially nice to strangers and cool with a cold approach but are hard to escalate or get anywhere with while the 6s and 7s are the toughest to chat with socially since they are so insecure.

 

[HowardHughesDicaprio]

From what I have seen with my own two eyes, the guys that consistently get these girls are in their circles early on or in circles with girls similar to that. A good example of this is college where attractive sororities have sister fraternities or something, the guys in them get the girls in the sister sororities. Just getting one of these girls ends up creating some kind of a chain reaction where you get many of these girls. Then whatever happens in college moves on to the real world. These guys keep in touch with these girls, maybe they meet their new social circles, and these girls introduce the guys. Before you know it, the guy is consistently getting these girls.

Now as I have said on previous threads, most of the times the guy isn't even that hot. He isn't fat, looks average to above average, and is almost always a White guy (no racist).

These guys somehow cracked the code through a lifestyle choice (rushing a fraternity for example) or something of that nature. I have seen rich dudes not get the kind of girls these guys can get.

It's like one girl in that social circle of hot girls likes you and you are in. That is why they call it the "in crowd". I have seen guys that weren't good looking (shorter than average or plain looking face) by any means get with these girls because they made that lifestyle choice. Most PUAs and others don't talk about this enough for us to actually know.

 

[In2theGame]

I'm that guy that has fvcked these HB9 girls with the Instagram/facebook pics etc. Did my looks play a part? 100% they did because for the most part the way i have met these types is going up to them in a bar/lounge and being direct as in "Hey i saw you walk by before and i thought you were so sexy" after they smile or laugh i keep the conversation going till i get the phone number. Usually these are difficult to get a one night stand with because they are in groups of women and they keep that pack closely knit. Ive usually hooked up with them afterwards when i get them to go on dates with me one on one and then date them for a bit. The upside to these Women is eye candy, Ego boost, Sex with a chick most guys drool over but in my experience thats where the fun stops. The downside is they can be very b!tchy and VERY! shallow. I remember one of the girls i was with, We were laying in her bed after i made her squirt lol She leans over and tells me "Im glad you are attractive" I said "What does that mean?" She responds with "Well, I cant be with no ugly guy and i need to keep the good looking genes running in my family" I laughed and thought wow. She was a babe no doubt with an incredible body and face but after that statement and also her b!tchy attitude she would try to give me, I would have to constantly put her azz in place after an argument. When she would dress up for work... Im tellin you, Those blue/green eyes and huge natural t!ts would create massive attention. We would meet up for lunch downtown when i worked in the Wall st area. After a few months she wanted to get more serious and tried to stay with me but i bailed out as i felt i wasnt ready to jump into another LTR especially how my last LTR ended.

The next one right after that i met in a club, She had a porn star body that would make most men weep. I was at a table that i got for a friend and I with bottle service. Once i saw her walk by again, I said to myself.. I have to talk to her. I waited for my opening as guy after guy after guy kept approaching her so when she was standing there kind of swaying to the music, I grabbed my drink and approached. I tapped her on her waist from behind and opened up a conversation. Got the number as she and her group of friends were leaving early because one of them got sick from drinking too much. Anyway, I called her up and we set up a date. I fvcked her and ended up dating her for few months. The upside here was the great azz, huge t!ts, long blonde hair and beautiful face. The sex was great and when we went out on dates, Every guy would stare and that made me look really good to other women. In fact when i took her to a rooftop bar in midtown one night, The next weekend i went to the same bar with some guy friends and a bartender came up to me to introduce herself because she saw me the week before. The downside was constant arguing and b!tchiness. At times acting like she was the worlds princess and again i would put her in line calling her out on her BS, Which she admitted to me she liked. She would CONSTANTLY need validation, sending me literally 5 or more pictures of her a day. Pictures of her in the mirror every day, i must of had like 100's of pics of her on my phone all from her just sending them without my request. Then she would try BSing me with other stuff and some lie's which again led to fighting. Ultimately we had one Huge argument and never spoke again. Ive had a few blocked phone calls though with no answer when i said hello, makes me wonder if it was her.

Ive dated others too but the thing is they can be very exhausting and they get their attitude, shallowness and self-entitlement issues from the massive amount of men validating them with affection. This is the main reason why dating one can be too much for some guys because she will get showered with affection from guys all over the place. Women in general love attention but with many hot women, times that by ten. Even when i could bag a HB9, Its more difficult for me to bag a HB7 as strange as that sounds. I have still closed on many HB6,7,8's but they kind of make it harder for me or so it seems because my direct approach turns them off. I have tried going out on dates with HB 7/8's and my straight forwardness makes their guard go up where as the HB9's seem to love it. Strange i know but anyway, We all love the hot girls but ultimately with todays incredible validation society, they will potentially drive you nuts. If i ever get back into a LTR it will most likely be with a 7 who is cute but less of a headache.

 

[HowardHughesDicaprio]

We might be getting hot mixed up with tons of makeup and fake body (as well as fake everything). To me beauty on a woman is about facial symmetry and nice features which are natural. A woman that I consider hot would be Sienna Miller, just look at how symmetrical her face is and how the features constantly play up to each other.

http://photos.posh24.com/p/1131644/z/sienna_miller/sienna_miller_smile_moustache.jpg

That right there is hot and in the range of a 9 or 10. You will find very few of these out of 100, most of the nights you won't find any of these.

So many girls try to emulate that by coloring their hair blonde and putting on a fake an when their faces are just plain or barely above average. Those kinds of girls are not really hot girls IMO.

Those girls are the ones you throw into the 6 and 7 range but wish they were 9s and 10s themselves. The problem is that they face this inner insecurity which drives them mentally insane because they don't have the genetics for good looks and are frustrated because they don't.

 

[pete101]

I'm that guy that has fvcked these HB9 girls with the Instagram/facebook pics etc. Did my looks play a part? 100% they did because for the most part the way i have met these types is going up to them in a bar/lounge and being direct as in "Hey i saw you walk by before and i thought you were so sexy" after they smile or laugh i keep the conversation going till i get the phone number. Usually these are difficult to get a one night stand with because they are in groups of women and they keep that pack closely knit. Ive usually hooked up with them afterwards when i get them to go on dates with me one on one and then date them for a bit. The upside to these Women is eye candy, Ego boost, Sex with a chick most guys drool over but in my experience thats where the fun stops. The downside is they can be very b!tchy and VERY! shallow. I remember one of the girls i was with, We were laying in her bed after i made her squirt lol She leans over and tells me "Im glad you are attractive" I said "What does that mean?" She responds with "Well, I cant be with no ugly guy and i need to keep the good looking genes running in my family" I laughed and thought wow. She was a babe no doubt with an incredible body and face but after that statement and also her b!tchy attitude she would try to give me, I would have to constantly put her azz in place after an argument. When she would dress up for work... Im tellin you, Those blue/green eyes and huge natural t!ts would create massive attention. We would meet up for lunch downtown when i worked in the Wall st area. After a few months she wanted to get more serious and tried to stay with me but i bailed out as i felt i wasnt ready to jump into another LTR especially how my last LTR ended.

The next one right after that i met in a club, She had a porn star body that would make most men weep. I was at a table that i got for a friend and I with bottle service. Once i saw her walk by again, I said to myself.. I have to talk to her. I waited for my opening as guy after guy after guy kept approaching her so when she was standing there kind of swaying to the music, I grabbed my drink and approached. I tapped her on her waist from behind and opened up a conversation. Got the number as she and her group of friends were leaving early because one of them got sick from drinking too much. Anyway, I called her up and we set up a date. I fvcked her and ended up dating her for few months. The upside here was the great azz, huge t!ts, long blonde hair and beautiful face. The sex was great and when we went out on dates, Every guy would stare and that made me look really good to other women. In fact when i took her to a rooftop bar in midtown one night, The next weekend i went to the same bar with some guy friends and a bartender came up to me to introduce herself because she saw me the week before. The downside was constant arguing and b!tchiness. At times acting like she was the worlds princess and again i would put her in line calling her out on her BS, Which she admitted to me she liked. She would CONSTANTLY need validation, sending me literally 5 or more pictures of her a day. Pictures of her in the mirror every day, i must of had like 100's of pics of her on my phone all from her just sending them without my request. Then she would try BSing me with other stuff and some lie's which again led to fighting. Ultimately we had one Huge argument and never spoke again. Ive had a few blocked phone calls though with no answer when i said hello, makes me wonder if it was her.

Ive dated others too but the thing is they can be very exhausting and they get their attitude, shallowness and self-entitlement issues from the massive amount of men validating them with affection. This is the main reason why dating one can be too much for some guys because she will get showered with affection from guys all over the place. Women in general love attention but with many hot women, times that by ten. Even when i could bag a HB9, Its more difficult for me to bag a HB7 as strange as that sounds. I have still closed on many HB6,7,8's but they kind of make it harder for me or so it seems because my direct approach turns them off. I have tried going out on dates with HB 7/8's and my straight forwardness makes their guard go up where as the HB9's seem to love it. Strange i know but anyway, We all love the hot girls but ultimately with todays incredible validation society, they will potentially drive you nuts. If i ever get back into a LTR it will most likely be with a 7 who is cute but less of a headache.

Hmm I suspected this. Thanks for the response.

I was kind of hoping there was a way to get these girls without looks and advice accordingly but maybe as I suspected to be bracketed into that 'hot' category and not be used to orbiter collecting or gold digging

 

[apprenticedj]

Meh, give me a HB7 that likes Tarantino, eating at hole in the walls, drinking in dives and can bang like crazy any day. Your life will be drastically better.

 

[TheGambino]

1. Be extremeley confident
2. Have fun
3. Tease them
4. Push/Pull her
5. Don't be afraid of her looks at all

Pretty easy if your a tall fun outgoing guy, but im short :/