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Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

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Have a girl with sex on her mind. High IL?

Kal0051

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Got a girl that I'm gonna be dating. Anyway she obviously has sex on her mind, we make lots of dirty jokes. Don't really know if she has a high IL or is just really flirty. What do you think? Have you ever encountered this? And while she acts like this I doubt she'll sleep with me right away, will probably take a few dates (she outright told me this).
 

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It's not a definite sign of interest, but it might be. Assume she is if she is talking about sex and she is dating you.

You need to kino (touch) her, and escalate to kissing (or further) on the FIRST date. Don't be too easy, don't be a pushover, make her work. Do some push-pull.

When she told you it would probaly take a few dates to get into her pants, you should have said something like "oh, I'm not that easy" in a teasing manner. Make it look like she is the one pursing you.
 

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Captain said:
When she told you it would probaly take a few dates to get into her pants, you should have said something like "oh, I'm not that easy" in a teasing manner. Make it look like she is the one pursing you.
lol, I did say something like this. She likes playing hard to get too, but she does it in a cute obvious way.
 

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I had a similar situation so here is my experience plus advice. 5 minutes into our first date we were making out, we kept going at it throughout the date wild make out sessions......we only had 1 date :(

I guess sometimes you do such a great job at teasing a girl and getting her hot before your first date (plenty of dirty phone messages just like your situation) that you completely destroy her anti slut defense and she gives herself to you fast because you got her hot to the point she can't take it anymore!

Sometimes after such successful first dates they get their ASD thoughts and start feeling like a slut, think you took advantage, get angry at themselves for letting themselves go, don't see you anymore as relationship material, they don't want to see you again. It happened to me, I couldn't help it she was hot, however I didn't pay her the attention she deserved after our date. If you end up in a situation like mine (wild first date foreseen due to the content of phone conversations) and you want a relationship, then you need to act like you want a relationship. Make her your gf, ask her on a follow up date, call her on the phone etc etc. Take an interest on her if not your great first date will turn into a 1 hit wonder.

This advice is assuming you will end up in a situation like mine due to the girl already engaging in sexy talk on the phone prior to the date. The thing is most girls will not engage in such talk with a guy prior to a first date unless they are already hot for you. If you don't end up on a wild make out session with such a girl it will probably be your fault, all you have to do is kiss her!

The best advice I can give you is to keep up the dirty messages and make sure they are about you and her (if not already). Talk about you 2 involved in sex/kissing etc etc. PM me if you want a list of things I said to my date that got her real hot.
 
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