has anyone one noticed this yet?

[thedude4242]

the local dance club/bars in your area have a lot of the same girls out on the weekends. you see them all there mostly all the time. they been out for sometime and have no b/f and a lot are not having a lot of sex because no one you know it hitting it. are these woman just miserable because they always to seem to have somewhat of an attitude. are these woman gonna f$ck or do something?

 

[ThatMysteriousGuy]

the local dance club/bars in your area have a lot of the same girls out on the weekends. you see them all there mostly all the time. they been out for sometime and have no b/f and a lot are not having a lot of sex because no one you know it hitting it. are these woman just miserable because they always to seem to have somewhat of an attitude. are these woman gonna f$ck or do something?

They are getting laid, they're being discreet about it and trying to portray themselves as "saving themselves" girls.

A lot of them go have sex-with-an-ex from time to time, for example.

 

[SchoolBoy]

Attention seeking wh0res who just want free drinks and a good time... Enough said.

 

[thedude4242]

good time with sex or without sex.

 

[spinaroonie]

I can empathize with OP.

I'm noticing a clear trend here in the venues I frequent - Toronto area nightclubs populated by college kids.

The girls will be dancing in a circle with their girlfriends, surrounded by a wall of guys. Eventually a few guys muster enough balls - abetted by liquid courage - to hit the dance floor. Only to get haplessly shot down by girl after girl. Some will resort to haplessly dancing the night away with their male buddy.

Worse, there are few opportunities to hone my game; there are few open sets because all the girls are on the dance floor. One set my buddy and I attempted to open resulted in the girl calling me "rude" for interrupting their conversation, and she stormed off pulling her friend to the dance floor with her.

I'd always imagined dance clubs as places where girls came in, entertained suitors by the bar, and danced the night away with a few good charming prospects, with the potential to escalate to something more. Yet I don't see any of that. I see more girls dancing with girls than I see dancing with guys. The white couches in the lounge are vacant - because nobody's making out.

Night after night I see the same dynamic; well-dressed, good-looking guys going home alone or with other guys, and packs of girls going home together, gaggling away with their girlfriends. And keep in mind this is in a venue populated by HB5-HB7s - (the male equivalent of HB5-7 stay home). I'd go so far as to say that one can stack up the girls and guys in these joints, and the average guy would be better looking than the average girl.

What's wrong here? Aren't girls looking to meet new guys and hooking up? Or are girls just going to dance? Is it the girls or is it the guys? Are male-female social mating dynamics in 2009 just so askew?

 

[thedude4242]

yea good questions.

 

[MaTuA]

I dunno but, I noticed something similar here in North Carolina too. I see the same hoes every other weekend or so. I see some of the same guys too. They do dance, but I don't see alot of women who go home with the guys, or vice-versa. I am able to observe this from the third-person view(security/bouncer) on a weekend basis. Come to think of it... If I wasn't making money off of this weekly courting "ritual", I'd be just like the rest of these guys! That would overly suck!

I figured, since I don't have the ravishing good looks of Denzell Washington, or Money like Jordan. I don't really stand a great chance in scoring the chic(s) I want in that scenario anyway... So I'd rather be getting paid. :yes:

 

[thedude4242]

we should look at the subjects a little more. anyone else have any thoughts?

 

[ThatMysteriousGuy]

What's wrong here? Aren't girls looking to meet new guys and hooking up? Or are girls just going to dance? Is it the girls or is it the guys? Are male-female social mating dynamics in 2009 just so askew?

Not at all, just some clubs are doing it very wrong and losing a lot of profit they would have made. People are still people.

Do what none of the other guys are doing, social proof, bring girls (not a girl) with you who treat you with respect. You can hone your skills on the ****y & funny stuff with your girlfriends and if they're having a much better time than the other girls in the club (they're doing the same thing week after week, they are bored, really, it's the alcohol), they WILL notice you and start being attracted.

 

[WC2]

Don't be fooled.

Just because girls aren't making out with dudes on the dance floor at the bar doesn't mean they aren't going home with guys.

It's not high school anymore where a chick hangs on a guy all night and then goes home with him..

Almost all good looking women have their booty calls and you better believe that they're calling them when they're drunk and leaving the club.

And you're right. Women aren't necessarily going out to dance with men. Women are going out to dance with women and show off to the higher valued men.

These men rarely touch the dance floor and float around talking to many women, grabbing numbers, laying seeds. A lot of the times these are the men who are getting booty-called at the end of the night; not the group of guys who stand on the dance floor all night in HOPES of that one woman who's going to make their night. This rarely happens.

Women go for men who have high value among others and are proactive, not reactive. If you're on the dance floor all night with your buds trying to scheme on women, these women will laugh at you. You are just WAITING. There's nothing special about you; they can read you from a mile away. Nothing mysterious at all.

Sometimes it's worth it to spend the extra few bucks and get a table and bring women up. Make your own crowd and meet new people.

Dancing is a great tool if you've sparked attraction beforehand, but it's really overused by guys at the club. Women don't want to dance with some random creeper who's been dancing with women all night. If they do, it's most likely she's doing it to get attention from other men. Women want to meet men who have high value, flirt with them, and then dance with them once attraction has set in.

 

[DJDamage]

they been out for sometime and have no b/f and a lot are not having a lot of sex because no one you know it hitting it. are these woman just miserable because they always to seem to have somewhat of an attitude. are these woman gonna f$ck or do something?

Every year women are becoming more miserable. Not only because they age or feminism but also because majority of the guys out there are not good enough for the majority of the hot girls (lack of game or just being a plain loser is the culprit). Therefore hot girls have to fight over a very small amount of guys that all other girls want. But the problem for these girls is that these Alpha type of guys know their value and sleep around thus eventually replace these girls. Girls end up becoming bitter, thinking they are a victim. Then they go dancing with other girls looking for attention and hoping other Alpha males approach them. Eventually those girls hit their mid late 20's and find beta providers for marriage.

The vicious cycle continues.

 

[thedude4242]

I have also noticed that the guys on the dance floor are somewhat desperate. some of the guys who are actually getting it, you cant even tell and they are often dissed or called out by the dance floor guys, but really they are getting it on the low and get more woman than any guys on the dance floor does.

 

[Scion]

I've never been success at approaching girls on the dance floor. I've only danced with a handful of girls at clubs and the interaction always started off the dance floor. I'll give 2 examples.

Once was when I was at a club talking to a couple of guys and one of them was trying to give me tips to pick up women (neither of these guys got numbers that night while I got one from a girl they were trying to pick up). Anyway, there was this girl one of those guys was interested in and she overheard our conversation. She comes up to me, grabs my hand and tells me she'll find me a girl. She never even looked, we just danced. She gave me her number at the end of the night, and we met up a couple times after that. But I found out she started sleeping with the dj at that club (to get vip and free drinks I guess) and I lost interest. Took advantage of the vip service once or twice after I found out before I broke contact (she didn't know I knew).

The second example was a few months back I was out with my cousin and brothers. We went out with my cousin's friends and a couple of her friends were paying for repeated rounds (basically forcing ppl to drink, the 2 of them probably spent a couple hundred dollars). One of the girls got pretty drunk and didn't want to drink anymore. But they were still giving her drinks. I see this, I tell her to come to the dance floor with me and that would stop them. She comes with me and we dance. She keeps telling me I'm a great dancer (I am, I learned how to dance well with a girl friend of mine). But she's obviously wasted, she's telling me that I'm so good looking and that my cousin will be pissed at her. I decide to screw with her and tell her to kiss me (she doesn't, just laughs and says my cousin will kill her). Whatever, at the end of the night we walk to the cars ahead of everyone (she ran to the cars, I followed her to make sure she doesn't get hit by a car) and I kiss her. Next night we go out with the same ppl. Me and the girl I danced with hang out drinking and making out all night, rejoining the rest of the group once in a while (when we wanted free drinks). I almost lost my virginity that night in my car, but I hesitated for a sec (thought someone was walking by the car) and I only got a bj from her (she claimed she felt rejected). Things fizzled out with her shortly after. This was the most success I've gotten with a woman.

Lol, didn't mean to get so off topic.

 

[thedude4242]

any other opinions? how many of you had success with talking sweet to a woman and telling her you are able to **** her all night and make her ***, in a convincing way?

 

[Trendsetter]

Ok I have to chime in. I'm a GREAT dancer, I took a hip hop class my last semester at school and practiced for the next 3 months to the point where I was at the club dancing and people would just watch me and be in awe. Id be waving, locking, popping, crumping, all that hip hop $hit.

It's great for attention, best believe, if you are a GREAT dancer, girls will come up to you and tell you that you are a good dancer (it's a good icebreaker). The only problem with that, is that on the dance floor if you try dancing with them, and you're this super awesome hip hop dancer, a lot of girls resent that kind of thing, it really is only good for if you're battling someone that is a good dancer as well. If you are a really good dancer, girls that dance will hate that $hit because you're stealing all the attention from them. They won't wanna dance. I walked up to a chick who was dancing one time and started dancing with her (not regular dancing but doing all that hip hop stuff) and she straight up stopped dancing because I blew her out, and she even told me, 'you're better than me'. It's fun sometimes though, if you're that good, some girls will wanna dance with you but all it's good for is to break the ice, a lot of those chicks that will dance with you when you're doing your thing are just doing it to have a fun time, you're gonna have to spit your verbal game eventually. Now if you're a good salsa dancer, it's another thing, you can lead and not have them insecure about themselves because it's in unison.

The best way to use dancing to your advantage is after you've opened a chick, then pull her to the dancefloor but let her lead, no matter if you were on Americas best dance crew, just let her lead and follow, it's not a contest and you're not trying to blow the chick out. If you start overwhelming her, she'll get insecure...or after, say you go onto the floor and start dancing with her, you're gonna have to talk to her eventually so you can say, "let's take a quick break", or "this song sucks, lets chat for a second" either way, you're gonna have to spit your game.

I actually stopped dancing at bars around mid october and stuck to straight verbal game and got laid a lot more than when I was literally being a dancing monkey and dancing all over the place. Yeah it's good for attention but I wasn't getting laid because of it. Like I said before, it's a good icebreaker and if you're a great dancer and everyone has seen that then you go up and chat a girl up, you're value will be that much higher....but once again, it depends on your rap. She's not jumping in your bed because you can do a couple of body waves n moonwalk.

The most success I've had has been verbal game at the club and even on the dancefloor. Verbal game trumps dancefloor game any day of the week, and honestly, you should be dancing because it's fun, not to pick up chicks.

 

[thedude4242]

there is a difference dancing like beyonce in sinle ladies or that coreagraphed nsync justin timberlake, ect. but if you watch hip-hop videos and see how nelly dances with girls in hot in herr and how jermaine durpi dances in chingy right thurr woman can handle that a little more because you are not all over the place. the dancing you are talking trendsetter is more like b-boys dancing and that kind of dancing you use in battling.