Maximummax
Senior Don Juan
There is this girl i know is married and we were having a meeting together(lots of people were also there). she tells me she gets bored by her husband.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
has any one ever banged a married chick?`
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Tictac
Banned
Chump move.
There is always another woman.
There is always another woman.
bcolon
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Out of all the 3 billion (probably exaggerating that figure) females in the world that are more than likely single you decide to want to have sex with a married female.
Move on. Not worth it.
Move on. Not worth it.
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I would never try to sleep with a married women.it just isn't in my nature to do something that underhanded and sneaky.There are plenty of single women who want to meet a nice charming guy.try to be that guy.Maximummax said:
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AFAIC ALL women are either married or have boyfriends. They know how to make it seem that way if they aren't interested in you.PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
I've had a married woman in chambers, but the only reason I got to bang her is because she's a neighbor who knew me for some years now.
I already have a fear of getting married. Will likely be worse when I get successful.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
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A couple, yes.
1 was married, but separated. Made it clear where she stood and we had a pretty good fling. She did in fact get divorced just like she'd said.
2 was married, but claimed she was separated and the husband was moving back to the US. Turns out he was just TDY and they ended up having a kid together a while after she and I split once he got back.
3 was possibly married. Not sure what her actual status was because it was a one night stand, but there was family pictures all over with the kids and their dad and her. When I noticed them she blurted out that the kids were with their dad suggesting they weren't together. I have no way of knowing one way or the other.
1 was married, but separated. Made it clear where she stood and we had a pretty good fling. She did in fact get divorced just like she'd said.
2 was married, but claimed she was separated and the husband was moving back to the US. Turns out he was just TDY and they ended up having a kid together a while after she and I split once he got back.
3 was possibly married. Not sure what her actual status was because it was a one night stand, but there was family pictures all over with the kids and their dad and her. When I noticed them she blurted out that the kids were with their dad suggesting they weren't together. I have no way of knowing one way or the other.
izza
Master Don Juan
As usual, many terror-based responses.
1 married lady kissed me. I said hold it. I was ridiculously attracted to her but also friends with her husband. I was like, this is great, but I don't like secrets. She said he wouldn't care. And I said, then surely you won't mind telling him. She said she did mind, so I was like well, that's that then. I wish I'd emphasized that I was not judging her and I wish I'd offered to tell her husband myself.
I actually had a huge friend-crush on her husband. My dream scenario was to come over, bang her, and hang out with both of them. They're really awesome people. But we stopped being friends after I turned her down. I wonder if she was embarrassed.
2 was a lady in an open marriage. They have what strikes me as a beautiful open marriage. Nobody is perfect, no relationship is perfect, but they're very happy. I met her through the internet - we had sex, it was really fun. And then I was like "really, your husband's ok with this? Really?" Even though I've been in lots of open relationships, I was suspicious of them. She talked so much, I was wondering how he'd ever have a chance to tell her even if it did bother him. Anyway, so I went and met him. I was super nervous. Oh man, that guy couldn't care less. He struck me as 100% sure that his wife loved him like crazy. He was like "I know she loves me and our relationship is great. So, stay safe and have fun." I thought it was a touching moment.
If I were you, I would read a book on open marriages or suggest one to her like Opening Up. I can't believe these guys want you to automatically turn down a lady you like. Don't get me wrong, you may have to come to that, and I have personally done it as you can see from lady 1. But I suggest against jumping to maniacal conclusions. These guys are suggesting you run for the hills right away. That's one option. Another is, if it feels right, you can try to negotiate something that works for you. Like, "I would love to be with you if your husband knows about it and seems ok with it." I don't see what you have to lose by saying something like that and I see lots of fun to gain.
1 married lady kissed me. I said hold it. I was ridiculously attracted to her but also friends with her husband. I was like, this is great, but I don't like secrets. She said he wouldn't care. And I said, then surely you won't mind telling him. She said she did mind, so I was like well, that's that then. I wish I'd emphasized that I was not judging her and I wish I'd offered to tell her husband myself.
I actually had a huge friend-crush on her husband. My dream scenario was to come over, bang her, and hang out with both of them. They're really awesome people. But we stopped being friends after I turned her down. I wonder if she was embarrassed.
2 was a lady in an open marriage. They have what strikes me as a beautiful open marriage. Nobody is perfect, no relationship is perfect, but they're very happy. I met her through the internet - we had sex, it was really fun. And then I was like "really, your husband's ok with this? Really?" Even though I've been in lots of open relationships, I was suspicious of them. She talked so much, I was wondering how he'd ever have a chance to tell her even if it did bother him. Anyway, so I went and met him. I was super nervous. Oh man, that guy couldn't care less. He struck me as 100% sure that his wife loved him like crazy. He was like "I know she loves me and our relationship is great. So, stay safe and have fun." I thought it was a touching moment.
If I were you, I would read a book on open marriages or suggest one to her like Opening Up. I can't believe these guys want you to automatically turn down a lady you like. Don't get me wrong, you may have to come to that, and I have personally done it as you can see from lady 1. But I suggest against jumping to maniacal conclusions. These guys are suggesting you run for the hills right away. That's one option. Another is, if it feels right, you can try to negotiate something that works for you. Like, "I would love to be with you if your husband knows about it and seems ok with it." I don't see what you have to lose by saying something like that and I see lots of fun to gain.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
I have. It was last year and she was still married but had been seperated for 3 or 4 years at the time. She and her husband hated each other so much that none of them wanted to foot the bill for the proper divorce proceedings, figures. She was 40 and I was and still am much younger than she is. We basically became fb's and she would take me out to eat dinner and let me crash at her place whenever I felt. It was fun while it lasted then one night she got all emotional and broke it off. I walked out the bar never to contact her again but deleted her number. She sent a text apologizing and saying that she could be such an a$$hole sometimes and I never responded. No contact works like gold simply because I have things I need to do in my life and better females that will replace her in the future. Not to mention that I no longer live anywhere remotely near her so who cares?
oneboy21
Senior Don Juan
OP how did you started it!
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.