Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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has any fat ugly person here

DJnoob

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(no offense to anyone) actually been successful with women yet from doing all that stuff you learned from here and elsewhwere?

Please report...

I just don't believe that fat ugly hairy guys can score with hot hot chicks..

Sure, maybe you seem them walking with hot chicks... but their probably just friends.. is this true or what?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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It'll probably be better if you let everyone know why you're so curious about this first. Otherwise you'll probably get flamed for this thread.
 

bobbob

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they could, but the odds and everything else would be stacked against them.
 

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Haha... yeah you often see this in the blurb for products such as the likes of David D/Marius try and sell you, claiming that ugly/obese men can have massive success just because they use their techniques.

The quotes will be from supposedly 'real' people (ahem) something like 'I'm bald, 45 and overweight... but I now I score CONSTANTLY because I use the C&F system. It's magic! Thanks David D'.

Hmm... yes, what's the word I'm looking for here?

Ah yes.

BULLSH*T.

:rolleyes:

If some fat old trollop came up to you and gave the impression she was royalty/a goddess, and you were the one coming on to her etc... would you care?? Exactly.
 
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i said fat and ugly cause thats the worst case scenario that could happen
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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You say that, but I know quite a few bald, fat ugly guys going out with some fit chicks and they don't even know who DD is.
 

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^^ thats ****ing inspiring!! Mad kudos to him!!!!

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Well, I wont go as far as saying that I'm fat, but I am on the chubby side now after bulking up for football (american). I weigh ~ 230lbs [just weighed myself] right now. I just started my cut yesterday, and my plan is to be a mean ass RB at 210. And, I admit, I am hairy beyond reason. heh but I keep that in check by shaving (and waxing sometimes).

I can't say that I've had problems pulling chicks. You just got to work with what you got. I've had my fair share of older hot chicks, but I dont doubt that I'll pull more when I'm shredded. Personality can only take you so far :p heh

To address the topic more directly, yes I believe it is possible. I've seen a couple of totally fat ass ****s walking around and KISSING (!!!!!!) HB8s. Anything is possible in this world.


edit. holy ****. this chick is hot beyond r eason
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/big/2005arnold_expo3.jpg
 

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To be honest I think it's worse to be skinny, bald and ugly. Quite a lot of women like the 'cuddly bear' type, but if you are all of the above and short as well you are in dep sh1t unless you really are a Master DJ
 

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Originally posted by DJnoob
i said fat and ugly cause thats the worst case scenario that could happen
You forgot short!

Part of this site is to encourage being the best you can. So if they are fat, and been here long enough to learn the techniques, they should not be fat anymore! With the right clothes and haircut, they should not be ugly anymore. Short, who cares! Many short dudes pick up with the right attitude. They just dont pick up real tall girls, and who the fukc wants a lanky b*tch anyways!
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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That guy in the pics, I know it's real, but he still looks like someones stuck a dorkhead on bodybuilder pic.

Still, he seems to be doing ok now, hats off to him.
 

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unfortunately no. im one of the only ones that actually tried and everything backfired in my face. im worse NOW than i was THEN. theres so many vicious women these days and so many good men like me get shafted. like i said before, life aint fair for everyone.
 

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Originally posted by DJnoob
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I just don't believe that fat ugly hairy guys can score with hot hot chicks..

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No not really, fat ugly hairy guys cant get many hot chicks in that state.......

But all those Fat ugly hairy guys can get hot chicks as long as you invest time, effort, and sense into their efforts. Any guy that doesnt have a disability or a major deformity can at lesat get some women.

Lose the weight, work out, you dont have to be ripped, just in presentable shape, buy some nice clothes, get a nice haircut, and almost anyone can be at least average looking or better if grommed and dressed properly, if they are not significantly overweight.

But it takes hard works, but you will gain self esteem, and you will love everything that it changes in your life.
 

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I've got two fat mates who can pull easily. It's more difficult for them than a naturally good looking guy, but it can be done.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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I've seen it before. Definitely possible (and the guy was asian while the girl was white so they were NOT brothers and sisters).
 

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There is always the exception but if you see a ugly guy with a hot girl, chances are extremely high that he is loaded with money.
 

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Originally posted by John_Smith
I've seen it before. Definitely possible (and the guy was asian while the girl was white so they were NOT brothers and sisters).
So you just saw two people walking down the street and assumed they were in a real relationship?

How do you know

1) They're not just friends
2) She's not just using him for something
3) She's not a hooker
 
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