"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Hanging With The Older Crowd...

Johnny Alias

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So... I've finally noticed some of the people I hang out with getting... well... kind of old. I'm not a spring chicken at 38 but some of the folks I know are in their mid-40s and still going to bars etc.

I've begun to realize that this is not to my benefit. They're fine people... but women in these circles tend to get passed around from guy to guy. Before you know it you're eskimo brothers with like three other dudes. They're also not LTR material because they move from guy to guy. There's something wrong with many of them and though it may take a while each guy realizes it and gets out or she leaves preemptively. This is not to say the dudes I know are perfect either.

This is the old party crowd that never grew up and still thinks they'll meet someone and have a kid...

I started hanging out with them long ago because they were cool, had hot chicks in the circle (now old) and had status... doctors, lawyers, good for networking, parties and so forth...

I'm younger than they are and the difference is really noticeable... My ex gf of 4 years is 43 and LOOKS OLDER than that. They all do really. This is just that inevitable spiral into middle age and beyond...

I need to expand my social set... hang out with the 30-35 year olds... especially for the sake of meeting a woman for a kid at some point... just trying to figure out the best way to go about it...

God... a lot of these chicks are gonna turn into the drunken wrinkly wh0res we pity in bars that no one wants to talk to... yuck.

Thanks for the vent...
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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sylvester the cat

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Johnny Alias said:
I need to expand my social set... hang out with the 30-35 year olds...

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until you realise that this is what they're saying about you...
 

Don_Dom

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You're 38? You're going to blink and be 44. What happened to me.

Unless you are talking about really really young or old people there really shouldn't be anything keeping you from making friends with people in about any age group. But, then, I look really young for my age so your milage may vary.
 

GotED?

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I am 41 and this had been the best dating years of my entire life in the past 5 years (because I was married for 10 years until 37). All my recent LTRs has been with women in lower and mid- 30's so far. I had to NEXT some because they are still looking for 'THE ONE' to have a baby and get married - biological clock. I am past those experiences but you should be the Holy Grail instead looking for that.

You have much more easier time pulling women in their 30's because:

- you are much more career and financially stable
- men grow older more mature and distinctively manly while women just get wrinkled up
- you have fought way more battles in the heart with the dating game and should be able to handle women games now
- if you follow the major points on this forum: dress attractively, learn game, be indifferent, be emotionally detached, don't chase or pedestal the girl but show interest, you should have many options in front of you in women to choose from.

This should be the prime time of your game and life. Women younger AND older are drooling over your age group. Have a good red meat buffet.

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