Handling **** tests vs walking away?

[Dave12]

I have been reading up on Corey Wayne's Material and other Coaching Material like Chris Canwell.

Corey Wayne says when a women shuts down, throws a bad **** test, acts disrespectful/ bitchy that we should directly call her out on her behavior and say "I don't like the way you are acting, I am going to go and you can call me back when you are willing to communicate"

Other schools of thought say BE INDIFFERENT. Agree and Amplify. Treat her like a brat. Be playful. Don't fall into her frame. If she is acting bitchy, don't take her seriously. Don't be affected

So I am confused on which to employ or do a mixture of both.

Any advice

 

[Glassguy]

Indifference means that her actions are not effecting you one way or the other. When disrespected, etc, you do not feel indifferent so why act like it. You're only reinforcing that she can continue to act like she is and you'll continue to take it .

I agree with Corey Wayne on this. Call her out and tell her to reach out when she is ready to act mature and respectful.

She either will and correct her behavior because she knows you walk, or she will walk.

If she does, you dodged a bullet

 

[Dave12]

I guess I have to learn where my boundaries are to remain indifferent to something I might have taken as disrespectful previously..... to actually walking away when she is being too bitchy or disrespectful

 

[Dave12]

For instance, some guy comes up and starts talking to her at a bar while you go to the bathroom. You come back and watch them talk.

Do you call her out on it or do you play it cool and say "You guys are a great match, you should get his number"

 

[bigneil]

Coach Corey Wayne and Chris Canwell agree on most things. They both say be indifferent. When she pulls away, you pull away. Wait for her to come back. Otherwise, you walk away and never look back.

 

[guru1000]

Acting indifferent when you are not truly indifferent means you are inauthentic and trying to be someone you're not in order to "win her." Within this context, who is trying to win WHOM and thus who holds more value? This act of pretending is founded on insecurity to your true self--as you feel your true self is limited ...not valuable enough to hold her interest as you are.

Always call women out for behavior YOU deem unacceptable or disrespectful. Direct your interactions with an iron fist. She either defers or gets the boot.

 

[The Duke]

For instance, some guy comes up and starts talking to her at a bar while you go to the bathroom. You come back and watch them talk.

Do you call her out on it or do you play it cool and say "You guys are a great match, you should get his number"

You are assuming she is being disrespectful! Its not disrespectful to be social.

Your response is NOT COOL. You would come across as highly insecure.

 

[guru1000]

You are assuming she is being disrespectful! Its not disrespectful to be social.

Your response is NOT COOL. You would come across as highly insecure.

I disagree. If it bothers him, his act of refraining not to lose her is an act of insecurity.

I would view the interaction (if it were a date or gf and she was engaging) as disrespectful, and have dropped women for less than this.

 

[darksprezzatura]

If you legitimately "feel" disrespected and "act" indifferent it reeks of inauthenticity.

I say call her out in an indifferent non-needy way that communicates you aren't affected, but have boundaries.

Mind you, calling a girl out on her behaviour will almost always decrease attraction.

If it comes off as indifferent, atleast there won't be a dramatic decline in her attraction level.

Amused mastery works really well most of the times, but it can backfire if a girl continues nuke testing you and you can't maintain frame.

Nobody can win every game with everyone all the time.

 

[derby1]

i have a couple of mates who i never realised they do all this stuff naturally they wouldnt even know what we were on about, they dont even surf the net much.. if my pals partner annoys him to the extreme he tells her to get bk to him in a week when she basicaly agrees hes right ..also when they are in each others company in a pub he has more of an attitude like a brother and sister in a room he talks to her but doesnt really care shes there......just to confirm she would move mountains for him and shes very attractive just goes to show

 

[Dave12]

If I am calling a girl out in an indifferent way, how exactly does that decrease the attraction. Because she realizes that she can affect me?

I would think It would increase the attraction by letting her know I won't stand for certain **** from her?

 

[fastlife]

Two sides to this coin--if you're indifferent in a passive, laid back way, then you're inviting that behavior to continue; if you call her out in an emotionally reactive way, then you're validating the fact that her behavior has the power to affect you.

By all means, have boundaries--and always be ready to walk if people aren't benefiting your life. But do it for you--because you feel like it, and not as some attempt at behavioral modification or to qualify to her the fact that you're a 'high value man of standards.' Your motivation, be it from a place of scarcity or a place of abundance, will be the basis for how a girl responds to any action you take.

My personal metric is: Feeling good is my responsibility. Does this feel good for me? If it doesn't, Hey, nothing personal, I'm going to turn my attention towards things that will make me feel good. If you want to make an effort to help me feel good then you're welcome back (assuming you didn't do anything too grievous).

 

[Glassguy]

You should talk to her like you are calling out a child for bad behavior. In a matter of fact way with controlled emotions. Its not a discussion.

"I dont appreciate how you acted towards me in front of your family. I am not going to accept that behavior in front of anyone or in private. If it happens again, I will have to make a tough decision to move on. You can call me when you are ready to treat me with the respect I deserve.".

Thats it. Ball in her court. Want to act like a sh!tty b!tch, take a hike. Want to treat me with respect and it be mutual, stick around and act like you're an adult.

 

[wifehunter]

They're adults, and should KNOW what bad behavior is.

ALWAYS walk away from immature drama princesses. Unless you like being their abused subject.

Corey's got a secret beta frame. He acts alpha, but it's a show / front.