If you neg hit right, there is NO WAY a chick can possibly take you COMPLETELY seriously. Regardless, you don't need em. They're just fun if you feel like playing around with fire. Do what you like. And STOP THINKING!
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Handling miss 9
- Thread starter DJ McBuster
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
poohead
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you are already idealizing her to be this saint *and* an HB9!! :nervous:
HB9 is where normal men lose it and revert to making mistakes/AFC.
remember to master the 'pregnant pause' - think before you do or say something that you may regret later. remember that the *game* at this level is all about mastering the counterintuitive.
REread that post by Nighthawk - that is golden. when you are done idealizing the hell out of her and she has dissed you, you will realize that he is right.
HB9 is where normal men lose it and revert to making mistakes/AFC.
remember to master the 'pregnant pause' - think before you do or say something that you may regret later. remember that the *game* at this level is all about mastering the counterintuitive.
REread that post by Nighthawk - that is golden. when you are done idealizing the hell out of her and she has dissed you, you will realize that he is right.
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this is my idea...
Ok she knows she is a hot babe 9 but she is not all stuck up on it. And i told her that calling the date off was not cool. I know though that neg hits are not the way to go though. But i don't go around prasing her on a pedestal either. I always tease her about her looks, attitude, and job in a playful way, but if i am not going to be mean to her right away. I am going to tell her about my wonderful night out without her and work the jealous angle. I know she wants to get together. I just need to stop thinking so much. I will see her friday, we will flirt, i will give her plenty of kino, and we will do lunch!
Ok she knows she is a hot babe 9 but she is not all stuck up on it. And i told her that calling the date off was not cool. I know though that neg hits are not the way to go though. But i don't go around prasing her on a pedestal either. I always tease her about her looks, attitude, and job in a playful way, but if i am not going to be mean to her right away. I am going to tell her about my wonderful night out without her and work the jealous angle. I know she wants to get together. I just need to stop thinking so much. I will see her friday, we will flirt, i will give her plenty of kino, and we will do lunch!
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More on miss 9
I am not afraid to put her in her place either. It's just i don't need too. As much as i like her she likes me just as much if not more. She thinks i am dreamy and she says oh wow everytime she sees me. It is just poor timing on my part. Hot babe 9's like this want u to earn that *ussy.
I am not afraid to put her in her place either. It's just i don't need too. As much as i like her she likes me just as much if not more. She thinks i am dreamy and she says oh wow everytime she sees me. It is just poor timing on my part. Hot babe 9's like this want u to earn that *ussy.
...DJ McBuster said:
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And you hit the homerun with:
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You are making it all about her... just because she is a hb you are letting her get away with stuff, and even thinking about her, damn.. even making a thread about her with several posts.
Ask yourself a question McBuster... would this be the case if she was a UG?
I honestly can't believe you if you tell me that you do get the #s and all that, when you are behaving like this.
So, for whatever reason you may want to get her...
Ask her out again next week, don't call her this week because you are too busy, if she calls, tell her you will call her later because you are in the middle of something. This, besides getting her interest, if any, up.. will help you get your mind off her and start thinking straight.
By the way, NightHawk's post was
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
DJ McBuster
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Miss 9 called me
Miss 9 called me and we set up a lunch. During the conversation she asked about me, i kept it real, and we both laughed some what. she told me she had three days off next week and wanted to set something up. I told her i was working and kept the conversation short, she is so shy on the phone for some reason....Anyway i am over reacting on this website about her for sure, but i keep it real in person, it's just i really like her. I know that may be a crime around here, but i am about to have no peronal life, so i need to get me a main lady, alright.
Miss 9 called me and we set up a lunch. During the conversation she asked about me, i kept it real, and we both laughed some what. she told me she had three days off next week and wanted to set something up. I told her i was working and kept the conversation short, she is so shy on the phone for some reason....Anyway i am over reacting on this website about her for sure, but i keep it real in person, it's just i really like her. I know that may be a crime around here, but i am about to have no peronal life, so i need to get me a main lady, alright.
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I do get #'s and i even have a date with another girl tonight, but little miss nine has been my pet project for a while and i am about to see results. The only bad part is i have to treat OUR LUNCH LIKE A DATE and that sucks big time, but she wants to get to know me. I can tell the attraction between us is amazing but I can feel she has some big secret. She told me she does not even disscuss her personal life with close friends. Now grant it i don't buy that but something is up with her, I say at lunch we split the tab and i use it as an opprotunity to set up a real date and to gently prob her personal life. She is testing me again though. My intrest in her is to high but i cant help it.
You're headed for a crash.
All the signs are there:
She flaked first date.
You're obsessing, obsessing, obsessing. You've got oneitis and your actions will give you away.
Hell, you're already planning the next several dates because you're so sure everything is going to work out. You really don't know her.
20-1 says she blindsides you with a **** test you don't see coming and you'll be done.
For Christ's sake get some more women on the line so you don't put so much value on this date. Keep in mind the odds are against you.
All the signs are there:
She flaked first date.
You're obsessing, obsessing, obsessing. You've got oneitis and your actions will give you away.
Hell, you're already planning the next several dates because you're so sure everything is going to work out. You really don't know her.
20-1 says she blindsides you with a **** test you don't see coming and you'll be done.
For Christ's sake get some more women on the line so you don't put so much value on this date. Keep in mind the odds are against you.
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Miss 9 is a shyt test machine
She called off our lunch! that's twice now, but she knows if i am alone with her i will get her. Hence the games and the chase. She wants to see if i will play her games! But i did'nt get all desperate or hard on her. Went and talked to her later, used lots of kino, told her i was going to a party ( I did ) and sent her a text message. It said in a cute way either we go out or not, and she just texted me asking what i was doing? Told her i was still at the party (true) and asked what she was doing. She will ask me about the party tommorow, I will say I had fun, and met a really hot chick. This will make her jealous and want me. I will show her a picture to.
She called off our lunch! that's twice now, but she knows if i am alone with her i will get her. Hence the games and the chase. She wants to see if i will play her games! But i did'nt get all desperate or hard on her. Went and talked to her later, used lots of kino, told her i was going to a party ( I did ) and sent her a text message. It said in a cute way either we go out or not, and she just texted me asking what i was doing? Told her i was still at the party (true) and asked what she was doing. She will ask me about the party tommorow, I will say I had fun, and met a really hot chick. This will make her jealous and want me. I will show her a picture to.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
DJ McBuster
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May have strike one, but not out
Why would she still call me if she was not into me. she is still testing me, but u r right about my intrest level it is to high tommrow i won't talk to her or try to see her...
Why would she still call me if she was not into me. she is still testing me, but u r right about my intrest level it is to high tommrow i won't talk to her or try to see her...
nonchalant
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because she is bored and enjoys toying with afc's.DJ McBuster said:
because there is some guy with her and she wants to toy with his mind by showing that some other guy is texting her.
she flaked multiple times. she has no interest.
you are done.