"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Handling a fight in front of a girl...

NobodyCares1

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Ok this is what happened, I was out with my friends yesterday, we got a bit drunk and went to a club.

After I while I separated from my friends and saw a cute girl standing alone so I asked her to go dance with me. Turned out she is a girl from my school and has a clasroom right next to mine (though I have never noticed her really). Anyway she smiled and looked quite happy that I asked her to dnace. She told me that she saw me a lot of times at school.

Anyway we danced for a minute and then some guy came to me and pushed me. At first I thought that he might be her BF or her orbiter, because I couldn't think of any other reason why he would try to fight me. Anyway I pushed him away much stronger than he did me and asked the girl if she knew him. She told me that she didn't.

He came back and tried to punch me in the face, but he missed. He was probably on some drugs, because my friend told me today that his friends are junkies, so he is probably too. I didn't feel like fighting at all, I wanted to just focus on the girl so I just pushed him away again and asked him what was his problem. He covered his face with his hadns, he was kinda in a fighting stance but I didn't do anything. Then his friends came and took him away.

So I talked a bit with the girl, then we went dancing again. After a while someone kicked me. It was just a light kick to my ankle that I barely felt but still I turned around and he was there again. Though his friends were already holding him so I did nothing again. I took the girl out of the dance floor and we talked and cuddled a bit.

She was open for kino but pushed her face away a bit everytime I went for a kiss. Though we were touching with noses and so on the whole time.

Then I said fvck it and went for the kiss real quickly. It was a light kiss but she didn't interrupt it. After that she kept on saying that she has to go to her cousin (he was really there because I saw him). I didn't want to let her go and she didn't put that much of resistance. But after I while I let her go and she went to him. Then she probably left because I haven't seen her for the rest of the evening.

I certainly could've played the girl better but my question is how should I've reacted to that guy. I could've fought him and I would've probably beaten him but all of my friedns were gone at that time so if his friends would come I had no one to stand up for me. Also I wasn't in a mood to fight at all.

I wonder if that had any impact on her attraction. I didn't show any sign of fear or anything I just didn't fight the guy. But I stood there ready to fight.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Some dude's are just always looking for a fight man, they can't help it.

As for if you should have fought or not.. it really won't change a women's perspective from my experience. A girl should feel safe with you, and if you have a decent build and people already know you can whoop some ass then there really is no need to fight. Women like the IDEA of you fighting for them, not exactly the fight itself. But at the same time, don't be afraid to crack some skulls if you need to.

-Scars
 

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Well I am quite well build and tall, the guy was quite skinny and shorter than me. I had girls tell me that I am quite muscular. Nothing extreme though. Anyway guys usually avoid getting into a real fight with me, it almost always ends up with just pushing.
 

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NobodyCares1 said:
Well I am quite well build and tall, the guy was quite skinny and shorter than me. I had girls tell me that I am quite muscular. Nothing extreme though. Anyway guys usually avoid getting into a real fight with me, it almost always ends up with just pushing.
Well there's your answer. A lot of skinny guys and guys who are insecure are the ones who pick fights because they feel like they have something to prove.

So if a girl can look at you, and this other guy, simulate a fight in her head, and predict you the winner based on size/looks a lone, I don't think you lost anything here.

That's not to say size is everything, but let's face it. The more built and athletic a person is, there more people will favor them.

This other guy probably just looked stupid.

A real alpha male doesn't always have to fight.

-Scars
 

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Alright... she then said that she hates *******s like him, who just want to fight.

Anyway I think I was way too straightforward and rushed things a bit with this girl. She seemed quite open but got very nervous after the kiss. We'll see how she reacts when she sees me at school.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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In my opinion, you should never fight unless you have to. You don't want to end up in a situation where his friends could come and stomp you out or things escalate and the cops show up.

Stand your ground, but don't throw any punches unless the guy is really asking for it. Some woman you just met isn't going to want to spend the night with you in the hospital if things go bad or you're bloodied.
 

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The best fights are the ones we avoid....sounds cheesy but it's very true..only fight if you have to do...this guy sounds like he had it coming, though....i hate trouble makers...
 

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I think you handled the fight situation alright since you pushed him back harder and all he did was give you a little kick.

I think she may have been put off that you were still in a sexual mood after being harassed so much? I might have expressed some frustration, made use of the opportunity to spit some game on composure and decency, or whatever.
 

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Chamber36 said:
I think you handled the fight situation alright since you pushed him back harder and all he did was give you a little kick.

I think she may have been put off that you were still in a sexual mood after being harassed so much? I might have expressed some frustration, made use of the opportunity to spit some game on composure and decency, or whatever.
Well, it happens to me quite often that someone pushes me so I push him back so I am used to it. Though this was first time that he actually picked me to get into a fight with because I didn't even touch him or done anything to offend him the whole night before he pushed me.

Anyway I didn't escalate right away, we went out because she wanted to smoke and we talked. I escalated with KINO when we got back inside.
 
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