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probably not in america, most fairly hot women have already been railed by their class ahole before they get out of high school.Bible_Belt said:Sexual relationships to me is like getting drafted in this year's NBA draft: Not going to happen.
There are a lot of women who feel the same way. Many of them are fairly hot.
Didn't Jesus say that if you even think about having sex with a woman, you have already committed adultery with her?You mean being married. Again I'm a Christian and don't believe in pre-maritial sex. But a Fleshlight is not pre-maritial sex, it's just masturbating, and I don't see anywhere that masturbating is wrong.
DUDE. Thats only gonna increase his dependency. Can't you see he's actually trying to get some real ass that HE earned?Luke Skywalker said:You should invest in a fleshlight/doll or something and save some money, that way you can replicate whatever experience you had with one of them hookers with that thing without having to use them.
Jesus never said that, especially if the woman is your own spouce. He said if you 'lust' after a woman who presumably is not your spouce. Then you have to define what 'lust' means. In an adultery context, lust means to covet something that isn't yours. Jesus was reiterating the last two commandments which says that you are not to covet anything belonging to your neighbour, including his wife, not inventing new commandments, and again, thou shalt not Adultery is also one of the ten commandments.Deadly_Assassin said:Didn't Jesus say that if you even think about having sex with a woman, you have already committed adultery with her?
Never heard about anything of that sort, provide chapter and verse reference.Deadly_Assassin said:Also, theres a verse in Malachi or some where in the OT which talks about people that commit the sin when they wake up in the morning in their beds. Its pretty clear its talking about masturbation without using the actual words masturbation and penis.
I don't see the connection. Masturbation is not specifically mentioned anywhere in scripture as a temple defiling sin as being on a forbidden list, say as fornication is. As long as you are not excessively masturbating, I have yet to see anything in scripture that says that this is a temple-defiling sin. Why would the Bible leave a grey area if this particular sin, assuming it is really sinful, was important, yet it's very clear with respect to other sins such as fornication?Deadly_Assassin said:Again, isn't ur body meant to be the Temple for the Holy spirit to reside in? So, how come ur so interested with playing with yourself?
But I still think the whole masturbation theory is based on conjecture.Bible_Belt said:I don't mean to pass judgment on you, Luke, all of us are sinners, but I do disagree with your stance that the Bible condones fleshlights.
http://www.ivmdl.org/cbec.cfm?study=113
With regard to sexuality, as one walks after the Spirit, one realizes that both by the purchase accomplished by Christ on the cross and by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit one’s body belongs to the Lord, not to sexual immorality (1 Cor. 6:9-29). Further, self-control is one of the fruits of the Spirit. Self-control is the grace-enacted restraining or moderating of one’s desires or having power over oneself rather than being mastered by anything (1 Cor. 7:5, 9; 1 Cor. 9:25; Galatians 5:23).
There is no two becoming one principle there.Bible_Belt said:I doubt God is a techie. Porn, fleshlights, inflatable love sheep, chicks with vibrators - it's all the same thing, using technology instead of having real sex.
That's fine, because masturbation is not sex, and the people in the Song of Solomon were married.Bible_Belt said:Read the Song of Solomon - sex is a gift from God, meant to be appreciated - not avoided and not perverted into something else.
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Everyone is trying on here. Wutuyangfinancial is trying but didn't get anywhere because he's too short. The OP is trying, after all, he only went with the hookers when he wasn't able to get anyone for free after trying. I'm going to a Christian group and trying there to find a friend or wife, you cant say nobody is trying.Enryu said:but nooo you are going into a martial arts club, whining about the fact that you cant do a single thing without even trying unless you can do it.
You are not alone many many men do prostitutes very often but seldom admit it.... Its just another thing people usually lie about.DarthAngel707 said:I've "slept" with maybe 15-20 girls in my lifetime, all comfort women.
Luke, Mystery has a lot of experience with women and how to attract them... However, how solid do you think his psychology knowledge is? do you think he even has a Bachelor's in psych? It seems to me that all his knowledge comes from what he read/heard around, not actual scientific facts.Luke Skywalker said:Just food for thought. Mystery states that there are two hard-wired fears that guys have concerning girls, and they both deal with approaching.
1) Approaching a girl. (could be taken)
Explanation: In caveman days, if you took a girl who was taken by a high-ranking member of the closed society, you could end up killed by those members as they beat you to death. Since you don't know if she's taken or not, there is a bit of a death-risk.
2) Being rejected by a girl. (other girls could reject you if she does)
Explanation: In a closed caveman society, there may be 3-4 available girls. If one of those girls rejected you and word got around that you were not pre-selected, the other 3 girls would also reject you and you'd never have sex and be condemned to involuntary celibacy.
These are two hard-wired attributes that are responsible for phobias relating to women.
According to Mystery, we are like an old computer that hasn't been updated to the times -- but I believe that there is some phobia behind it, and he explains that even PUA's get this phobia once in a while, and everybody has it.