"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Had a lunch date earlier

Rhino22

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Yeah, so i had a lunch date earlier with this girl I met online. We met a few weeks ago but today was the first day we met in person.

We met at this place for lunch and I actually got there before her. So she showed up, and while I thought she was attractive, I did not find her as attractive as I did in her pictures. She's 27, but looked more like 35. I found myself more attracted to other girls there and in fact this one that was sitting right behind my date kept turning around and looking at me. She was beautiful. I know she was looking at me because there was nothing behind me.

So we talked and talked and it was good but I found myself thinking I don't like her like I like my ex. I feel hopeless but I'm not gonna give up. Then she tells me that she is kind of nervous and I ask why and she say's, "Well, you're not exactly freaky looking or anything." Does this mean she found me pretty attractive or what? I know she said she thought I was very cute before through email. I told her I don't get out much and she said that I should. So I ended it because I had to go audition a new drummer this evening but I suppose I will call her later because honestly I wouldn't mind just sleeping with her. Does this make me a bad person? lol
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Rhino22

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Yeah, I think she is looking for a relationship. I'm not at this point in time. She told me before we even went out that she doesn't like creeps though that message her asking for sex and then tells me she liked how her ex waited a month to kiss her. Does this sound like a girl I can ****? lol she seemed into me enough so w ho k nows.
 

Rhino22

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aaronlava said:
Theres two ways it can go, you can go for the simple try and get her back to yours and bang her. If you do **** her, be nice and **** her every so often!

Or pretend your looking for a relationship and **** her and leave! (this will probably make her hate you)

Well yeah i was thinking I could pretend we're in a relationship. I mean I don't mind hanging out for a while and ****ing. Honestly, I was never like this before. Before my ex and while I was with her I really did want a relationship.
 

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Rhino22 said:
but I suppose I will call her later because honestly I wouldn't mind just sleeping with her. Does this make me a bad person? lol
Wanting to just sleep with her, in itself, does not make you a bad person. Having to resort to lying, mislead her, "making her want you", and "pretending" you're in a relationship are all a weak man's game. The reason it is very tempting to use those methods just to get laid, is because at this point, you indeed might feel and be hopeless.

There is only one way to get better and if you have no guilt, then I say get the experience and the lays under your belt, then when you reach the point where it really doesn't matter, you will find out that you can actually just be very honest with them, and have them still agree to sleep with you, on your terms, pretty much most of the time. Happens to me all the time. I resorted to misleading, etc. in the past, but now I have women consitently willingly agree to play by my terms.

All you have to say is, "I am not looking for anything serious right now, but would like to date and get to know you better.", she will understand exactly what you mean and decide if that interests her. The key is to say it and be willing walk away empty handed if she objects or is not open taking it slower. Having to lie or mislead is a scarcity mentality type of game.
 

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Gangster Of Love said:
Wanting to just sleep with her, in itself, does not make you a bad person. Having to resort to lying, mislead her, "making her want you", and "pretending" you're in a relationship are all a weak man's game. The reason it is very tempting to use those methods just to get laid, is because at this point, you indeed might feel and be hopeless.
Good words and good advice Gangster.

Resorting to pretense is indeed a weak man's game. It may be common practise in the PUA community, but ultimately it is deceptive and shady.
The trick is to develop your boldness, confidence and seduction skills so that you sleep with women because both of you want to ( often times she will want to have sex with you MORE that you do.)

You need to grow into BEING a man rather than pretending that you are one.

BTW, if you have other women staring at you while you are sitting with your date, you are well on your way.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Rhino22 said:
she liked how her ex waited a month to kiss her.
Fairy princess on a pedestal much ? Lost time is so pointless ...

Any interested girl will bend her own rules - from my own experience.
 
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