"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Guys who are persistent and "wear down" a woman

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I'm just wondering if any of you have heard stories of guys who fell madly in love with a woman, and she wasn't interested in him at all. But he was persistent, kept bringing her flowers or buying her gifts or doing crazy things to get her attention. And eventually his persistence paid off and she fell for him. If any of you have heard a story like this, how does this reconcile with the idea of just going along enjoying your own life, and making the WOMEN earn YOUR love?

And I guess in stories like I'm thinking of, the guy is trying to get the woman to be in love with him, not just have sex with him. Although the latter is more common by far. I was just wondering if anyone had any thoughts on this or even knows what I'm talking about? :p
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Wow, I wonder if this would work for the girl that dumped me. I mean, ever since she dumped me I have ignored her and she hasn't come back.

Should I call her right now and beg her to come back? Or maybe I should send flowers to her door with chocolate...
 
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My Name is Nobody said:
Wow, I wonder if this would work for the girl that dumped me. I mean, I have been doing the proper thing and have ignored her for over a month.

Maybe if I beg her I will have a chance? :moon:
Well I'm not suggesting this as the way to go about it. These are pretty obscure stories I'm talking about, and the DJ approach from what I've read has been proven to work (especially the part about not being attached to having this or that woman in particular, or oneitis). I'm just asking about these anomolies (sp?) that I've heard about. Why does that approach (focusing on one woman you want and persisting when she isn't interested) work sometimes? Does it depend on the guy, on the woman, what? Just curious.
 
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I was kidding of course I would never do that! haha I had you going there!
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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i ve heard a bunch of stories like this from my dad's generation and my grandparents'. Most of those marriages ended up ****ty, so maybe the girl should have listened to her original instincts...
 
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I think the "begging" tactic may have worked 30 years ago when our parents were young, but this is a new generation. The only thing persistance will get you in 2008, is a kick in the balls.
 

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I've heard and seen stories like this unfold right in front of my eyes. Most of these men have already been cheated on, or been dumped by their girl. Those who haven't yet, most likely will.

I don't like to stereotype women. But if there is one thing you're going to stereotype a woman about, it's her general animosity towards over generous, almost creepy men. Sure, you will find some desperate women out there who want to be pampered and enjoy it. Chances are, you can do a lot better than her.. most likely looks AND personality wise.

Relationships are give and take. It's like 2 opposite poles and you must keep them in balance. If you give too much, a woman will learn she can take as much as she wants. If you take too much, a woman will feel unloved. But if you take when necessary and give when it is deserved, a woman will appreciate it much more. Random gifts are nice, but they mean so much more to a woman when she has earned it. She has EARNED you. You're a prize. Once you start acting like you're less of a prize, your price tag drops down.
 

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Theoretically, a real man could do those things to get a woman's attention, and she might appreciate him for it. But no amount of gifts will earn affection for a chump.
 

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Things like this happen in the movies and sitcoms all the time.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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reset said:
Things like this happen in the movies and sitcoms all the time.
That was the first thing I thought when I read the first post.

Unfortunately that stuff doesn't fly in the real world.
 

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Isnt this similiar to the needy, nice guy behavior-the male who suffers from oneitis all the time? Thats my take on it. Cheers!
 

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CasanovaFrankenstein said:
I'm just wondering if any of you have heard stories of guys who fell madly in love with a woman, and she wasn't interested in him at all. But he was persistent, kept bringing her flowers or buying her gifts or doing crazy things to get her attention. And eventually his persistence paid off and she fell for him. If any of you have heard a story like this, how does this reconcile with the idea of just going along enjoying your own life, and making the WOMEN earn YOUR love?

And I guess in stories like I'm thinking of, the guy is trying to get the woman to be in love with him, not just have sex with him. Although the latter is more common by far. I was just wondering if anyone had any thoughts on this or even knows what I'm talking about? :p
That used to happen along time ago ... but it still happens in movies though just dont expect it in real life....LOL Persistent men are called pervs, weirdos stalkers, creepy etc..
 

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CasanovaFrankenstein said:
I'm just wondering if any of you have heard stories of guys who fell madly in love with a woman, and she wasn't interested in him at all. But he was persistent, kept bringing her flowers or buying her gifts or doing crazy things to get her attention. And eventually his persistence paid off and she fell for him. ?

Sure I've heard and seen stories. Hollywood 1985 Breakfast Club, Hollywood 1986 Pretty in Pink, Hollywood 1998 She's All That, Hollywood 1992 Basic Instinct - no wait, that's my dream.

And I guess in stories like I'm thinking of, the guy is trying to get the woman to be in love with him, not just have sex with him.

LOL. That goes against everything this site teaches.
You can try it. Just make sure the girl hasnt' eaten breakfast because you might see it in reverse.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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rofl...that is awesome.

My worst experience with a girl, and the one I look back on and think "wow, if I were to write a book on what not to do, that would have been it", was when I tried to pursue and woo her.

It DOES NOT work, only makes them run in the opposite direction. Not only that but you'll lose every last shred of pride and self dignity in the process.

Don't do it.
 
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