Caldus
Senior Don Juan
MindOverMatter that post rocked man. It's so spot on. Why can't women have some ****ing values these days? For God's sake have some substance.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Guys This Is What Women Really Want
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"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Stephen Z
New Member
If all girls were like this woman, we could go hang ourselves.
It's perfectly fine for her to get laid as often as she wants and the way she wants, that shouldn't be of concern here.
But her attitude is hell. She'll get the guys she deserves.
PRMoon and MindOverMatter put it very well.
It's perfectly fine for her to get laid as often as she wants and the way she wants, that shouldn't be of concern here.
But her attitude is hell. She'll get the guys she deserves.
PRMoon and MindOverMatter put it very well.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Golden Arms
Master Don Juan
the day Mower benches 225Originally posted by Fatality
when is cruzy going to respond to mind over matter's post
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Hi, long-time lurking, first-time posting.
I've been thinking a lot about what women really want, and I remember a post on another thread, I think from Pook about how we should live lives where we work to improve ourselves and I really agree with that.
I'm 23 and a student in south England, about to graduate this summer, and I've dated some really great women and have had three semi-serious girlfriends so far. I was abroad last year in Sweden studying and I got so many phone numbers, dates and interest partly because I was an Englishman which was a lot of fun. I had so much fun, I'm planning on returning to that same university to take my master's course in about a year's time (after a year of working and travelling first). I ended up being with a pretty serious girlfriend for a few months, she was absolute beautiful - blonde, 24, fit and with a twin sister - and we got on really well as people, she was great fun to talk to and just to be with.
She and I broke up however, mainly because I was going back to England, and it's left me in a down stretch since coming back, and I think women have been very perceptive and picked up on that, so I think that being happy in yourself makes you attractive - not just a sexual way, but also in a general way with people wanting to spend time with you. I have had some really good dates this year and quite a lot of interest, most recently a pretty girl at the gym who it turned out we shared lots of mutual friends, she and I exchanged phone numbers and went for a drink, but I decided I wasn't looking for more than friendship with her. One of my flatmates has taken to calling me 'Tim Juan'
I'm in my fourth year at uni. In my second year I worked out quite a lot (don't work out as much at the moment as I should do though), so I was about 6'2 and fairly good build and I had a really great girlfriend at that time. She was 19, tall, slim, charismatic and really great to be with, and she was my first, and I still think of her quite a lot. She and I broke up because we had really different ideas about life, though we were still friendly and kept in contact. I actually broke up with her, to the astonishment of my friends, because I didn't want to live how I didn't want to live.
I want to live in a way where I can live with myself, and part of that is what I think about women. I've had the opportunity to sleep with many girls but what I'm looking for is a classy lady. I've also been very much brought up with the idea that a proof of a man's masculinity is not in how many women he sleeps with but in how well he treats his woman. Feel free to disagree, but that's what I've grown up with and that's how I want to live my life.
Another thing I've learnt is how important it is to have interests in your life. I have problems sometimes with personal relationships, partly because my folks long thought I was borderline autistic, so in order to counter this I take time to get involved with things. Both at uni and outside I've tried loads of different things, from acting to having my own radio show on the campus station, from ballroom dancing (lots of girls there!) to martial arts such as Tae Kwon Do and Fencing (western swordfighting), which has helped my coordination and agility a lot.
So, at the end of all this, I think women can be attracted to superficial things such as appearance, but the women worth hanging onto will be attracted to those men who do stuff and look at life not as something to be endured but as an adventure and face that adventure with confidence and a sense of fun.
Pax,
OffCentreView
I've been thinking a lot about what women really want, and I remember a post on another thread, I think from Pook about how we should live lives where we work to improve ourselves and I really agree with that.
I'm 23 and a student in south England, about to graduate this summer, and I've dated some really great women and have had three semi-serious girlfriends so far. I was abroad last year in Sweden studying and I got so many phone numbers, dates and interest partly because I was an Englishman which was a lot of fun. I had so much fun, I'm planning on returning to that same university to take my master's course in about a year's time (after a year of working and travelling first). I ended up being with a pretty serious girlfriend for a few months, she was absolute beautiful - blonde, 24, fit and with a twin sister
- and we got on really well as people, she was great fun to talk to and just to be with.She and I broke up however, mainly because I was going back to England, and it's left me in a down stretch since coming back, and I think women have been very perceptive and picked up on that, so I think that being happy in yourself makes you attractive - not just a sexual way, but also in a general way with people wanting to spend time with you. I have had some really good dates this year and quite a lot of interest, most recently a pretty girl at the gym who it turned out we shared lots of mutual friends, she and I exchanged phone numbers and went for a drink, but I decided I wasn't looking for more than friendship with her. One of my flatmates has taken to calling me 'Tim Juan'
I'm in my fourth year at uni. In my second year I worked out quite a lot (don't work out as much at the moment as I should do though), so I was about 6'2 and fairly good build and I had a really great girlfriend at that time. She was 19, tall, slim, charismatic and really great to be with, and she was my first, and I still think of her quite a lot. She and I broke up because we had really different ideas about life, though we were still friendly and kept in contact. I actually broke up with her, to the astonishment of my friends, because I didn't want to live how I didn't want to live.
I want to live in a way where I can live with myself, and part of that is what I think about women. I've had the opportunity to sleep with many girls but what I'm looking for is a classy lady. I've also been very much brought up with the idea that a proof of a man's masculinity is not in how many women he sleeps with but in how well he treats his woman. Feel free to disagree, but that's what I've grown up with and that's how I want to live my life.
Another thing I've learnt is how important it is to have interests in your life. I have problems sometimes with personal relationships, partly because my folks long thought I was borderline autistic, so in order to counter this I take time to get involved with things. Both at uni and outside I've tried loads of different things, from acting to having my own radio show on the campus station, from ballroom dancing (lots of girls there!) to martial arts such as Tae Kwon Do and Fencing (western swordfighting), which has helped my coordination and agility a lot.
So, at the end of all this, I think women can be attracted to superficial things such as appearance, but the women worth hanging onto will be attracted to those men who do stuff and look at life not as something to be endured but as an adventure and face that adventure with confidence and a sense of fun.
Pax,
OffCentreView