Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Guys, I'm about to crack right now.

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I'm just....really close to calling my ex. After a couple of months...godfu<king dammit. It's only been a little more than two months. TWO!

I just went to her myspace page and I'm starting to fall like a house of cards. The curiosity has just been swelling up for the past couple of days and I just gave in.

I'd feel like a total douche calling her after telling her I'd never talk to her again. I just want to have a conversation and joke like we always do. I really do miss talking to her.

How bad would it be if I went against my word? She said she would want to talk to me if I did call. I...I'm so close to just saying screw it and calling her.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Ever hear of the boy crying wolf? After all your posts today, I have a hard time believing the sincerity of this post. Its like your drama ended in the other thread so your starting another one.
 

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well link us to her page..so we can see her :)


why do you give a crap...you can easily game 3-4 women a week.

this is a non-issue
 

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ThunderMaverick said:
I'm just....really close to calling my ex. After a couple of months...godfu<king dammit. It's only been a little more than two months. TWO!
Go ahead and call her - you obviously need the lesson that calling her will teach you.
 

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Yeah yeah I know. It's not good. I'm not going to do it.

I deleted her from everything completely and then I call her again? It'll definitely seem like I'm hooked on her. Maybe I am, but I don't wish to show her that.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I can't give you any advice because I would have to make several assumptions :D .
 

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Just as I started to respect you.

You cannot EXPECT others to RESPECT you including her if you do not RESPECT yourself.
 

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Call her up and spill your guts out.

Tell her you love her and you two need to be together forever and ever.

Positivity +1.

Happy Mac? :cheer:
 

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guru1000 said:
Just as I started to respect you.

You cannot EXPECT others to RESPECT you including her if you do not RESPECT yourself.

Well thanks. I guess I needed your respect?

You're right though. If I call her then what does that say about me? It means that I'm a liar and not a man who sticks by his word. She'll have me back as a friend and she'll have her fun.

I guess I'm just looking for some reassurance.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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KontrollerX said:
Call her up and spill your guts out.

Tell her you love her and you two need to be together forever and ever.

Positivity +1.

Happy Mac? :cheer:
Actually,

Him calling her is DEVALUING himself -Negative

Him not calling is RESPECTING himself -Positive
 

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TM,

how badly did you two end?

Do you feel that she disrespected you at the ending of the relationship?

What would you do if she decides she hates you and doesnt want to talk to you?

What would you do if she does want to talk to you and is happy to hear from you?

What do you feel you will gain from this experience?

Ultimately, TM...are you doing this from a masculine place of strength, or of needy weakness?

If she disrespected you , TM...how do you think you will come off trying to reconnect after her knowing she acted improperly with you? From what kind of frame will you be operating from???!

Has she ever asked for forgiveness?
if not, then you better rethink this.

If she has, maybe you two can be amicable.

No matter what you decide or do...the ultimate question is if you are TRULY Honestly doing this from a place of strength.

if so, then no one can stop you, because you can handle ANY outcome.

if not, then I suggest you put this on hold for now...
 

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Thunder,

This is the X I assume you are speaking of.

Read my post #18. I still stand by that.
 

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You know exactly how you're going to feel once that phone call ends - like sh1t. So why do it?

Moreover, this topic has been covered soooo many times already, I know all the answers by heart by now and so should you! Go lurk on Loveshack for a bit, it's all about crying over the lost love, how she was the one meant for you from the start, how you'll never get over it and yadayadayada. And it's great: you'll get tons of support because as the saying goes, "misery loves company".

I migrated over here because I understood reading the same posts of despair again and again on Loveshack was not helping me one bit; I didn't think I'd find the same sort of stuff on here! So stop whimpering and thinking about her, self-pity is useless and will get you nowhere.

Sorry if I'm harsh, but you need a kick in the a55 more than a big hug.
 

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Interceptor said:
TM,

how badly did you two end?
2 years ago I guess it was pretty bad. She said she had feelings for someone else and felt bad. She said she didn't want to break up but then again she did. I moved out of her place. We didn't end on hating each other. Nothing got heated.



Do you feel that she disrespected you at the ending of the relationship?
Yes and no. Yes because she lied to me about WHO she liked. No, because she didn't cheat on me. The second something was up I knew. He attitude did a 180 and thanks to this site I picked up on it immediately and asked her what was wrong. I didn't ignore her actions at all.

What would you do if she decides she hates you and doesnt want to talk to you?
My God, you know how good I would feel? To know that she doesn't feel a thing for me would be like freedom. I don't have to wonder about if she really feels as strongly for me as I do her.

I fantasize about that.

What would you do if she does want to talk to you and is happy to hear from you?
Well I know for a fact that she'll be happy to hear from me. She'll be happy, but at the same time she'll keep her distance. That's something I have a problem with because when we were together she was totally into me. She was willing to do anything and go anywhere. She was down. Now she's not. I don't like it. I want to be number 1, y'know?

What do you feel you will gain from this experience?
I'll probably solidify my undying need for her and it'll turn her off more than ever. I'll feel worse than I did before? I might have her on my mind more often than I should.

Ultimately, TM...are you doing this from a masculine place of strength, or of needy weakness?
Needy? Hm I don't need her. I just want to talk to her if I have that choice. She didn't want to stop talking to me in the first place.

If she disrespected you , TM...how do you think you will come off trying to reconnect after her knowing she acted improperly with you? From what kind of frame will you be operating from???!
We weren't together, but saying she's still in love with me while making plans to have sex with a guy in Texas is a little unsettling. I don't own her, but...

hmm.

Has she ever asked for forgiveness?
She's apologized a lot if you can believe it. She feels bad for what she did.

Put it on hold? You mean you're suggesting I talk to her again?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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thunder-

your acting like a pyssy.

come on man there are tons of women out there....GET SOME
 

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ThunderMaverick said:
Then stay out of my topic. Thank you.

Well if you don't want me in your topics then stay out of mine. Thank you. You are asking people to make assumptions and you make assumptions in other people's thread, then you tell me I'm wrong to make assumptions. I don't think so.
 

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guru1000 said:
Actually,

Him calling her is DEVALUING himself -Negative

Him not calling is RESPECTING himself -Positive
Yes I know.

Its called making a joke.

The forum is going in the direction of wanting AFC advice posted instead of the truth.

The truth and reality in general many have started to view as being negative here.

AFC advice is geared to be fantasy based and care free ie positive so thats what I provided in this thread.

I don't actually mean it though.

So yeah...

Thunder please don't call her.

If she did a bad enough offense to where you'd stop talking to her she obviously doesn't need to hear your voice ever again.
 

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ketostix said:
Well if you don't want me in your topics then stay out of mine. Thank you. You are asking people to make assumptions and you make assumptions in other people's thread, then you tell me I'm wrong to make assumptions. I don't think so.
You're missing the point. What we argued about had to do with the topic you were bringing up.

You're trolling. Unless you want to give advice on the topic at hand then please leave. KTHXBYE
 

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frivolousz21 said:
thunder-

your acting like a pyssy.

come on man there are tons of women out there....GET SOME

GAWD, Friv! It's not about other women. I'm getting laid on a regular basis. I don't NEED other women to cure this problem I have. Other women isn't the issue. It's ME. I'm the problem. I gotta figure myself out on this one.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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