"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Guys i need your help

DasaniWater

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Hey Guys. Well these past couple of months with my girl friend havnt been so great. I kept thinking how I could handle this, because we've been together for 6 months, and i thought i knew how to work this out, but it turns out Im not doing **** right and i need your help!!

Okay so where to begin. Well let me try to remember how it all started. Well it all started when she never trusted me and always thought i lied to her etc. etc. etc. Then it came down to her being a huge hypocrit, and getting really pissed off at me when i didnt trust her with some things i guess. I cant really remember how it all started, but i do know how it is now, it is horrible.

My girl friend is 17, im 18, we've been going out for 6 months, we've had sex, but not that often, probably about 6 times, WE NEVER GO OUT (Parents are very strict), so obviously i havnt had sex with her in a month or so. Okay so anyways. We never hang out. We never even hardly talk on the phone, prolly about 10 minutes avg a day 20 minutes if im lucky.. Ive been complain and complainin like how shes been acting with me lately, and its not working, i try to work things out with her but that doesnt work either so im asking you for help. Well she treats me like trash to be honest. she treats me worse than she treats her own friends now, aand im her 6 month boy friend, and she says she loves me. Of course she says all seh wants. but when it comes down to her actions she treats me like crap.

For instance, last week she finally had some free time to hang out after school about 3 hours. I thought this was the perfect oppertunity for us to finally hang out and make things better between us. At first she told me i was being a total ******* and thats why shes been like this with me, but now ive been totally kissing her feet and basically being a ****in ***** to her and she still treats me like **** after 2 weeks of it. its like shes a totally different person now. I have no idea what got into her. But anyways, so i asked her , Can i hang out with you after school? She told me no, because its only for girls that are goin to hang out and she told me shed hang out with me another time. Well trust me it wasnt that direct. I was prolly talkin to her about it for like 15 minutes and i finally realized she was beating around the bush and didnt want me to be with her in the first place. So then the next day i found out that a lot of guys came along as well. Shes not cheating on me i know that for sure. But that fact is she didnt even want me to be with her for some odd reason. thats how it usually is now.

Well she had the next day free as well, so we hung out, and we went to the movies, i spent about 60 dollars on her total, we only saw 30 minutes of the movie, she wanted to leave so we left, i was pretty mad but i didnt make it seem like i was. so there i was, following behind her like a dog ( as usual) and she begings to run a bit from me, and then i run a bit with her, and she looks back at me and says "Must you follow me??" that totally blew me away. Wel lits not the first time she treated me like trash. So then i left her alone. I caught up with her later, i was askin her whats been up with her lately, because we use to have this great connection, things were perfect, now shes totally different. Well basically i was cryin to her in her face and seh didnt even give a****. ok so that was that... Well lately ive been callin her on the phone, i guess im pretty much just annoying to her now. It breaks my heart to be honest. because i dont know who she is anymore. all the things we use to have together shes completely different like we never had anything. So lately ive been callin her and crying on the phone, she doesnt even care about the way im feeling. She just hangs up on me, or tells me that im annoying her and all this crap. So yeah. She tells me nothing is wrong, she hasnt changed, etc etc etc. It just confuses me. She tells me im making a huge deal out of nothing, when it is a big deal. Like im the crazy one being dramatic for no reason. I dont know whats been up with her this month though. She doesnt even talk to me that much, she usually walks off from me when we're at lunch and basically makes me feel like a dog annoying her by following her. She told me she wanted a week break but i dont think that would make anything better. I just try to talk to her and work things out but she tells me there is nothing to talk about. she told her friend im very clingy and i annoy her and crap. she never was like this. The only reason i keep attempting to follow her after she treats me like crap is because i just want to make things better but its not working. She doesnt talk to me. Well she tells me its because "i cant talk".. so basically saying im really boring. She rather hang out or talk to another guy than her own boy friend now. it pisses me off. Im getting so confused, so many mixed signals, i asked her if she still wanted to be with me and she said "I dont know", but she says she loves me. WTF?

Ok so lately shes been talking about all these things hinting we arent right for eachother, we're different, we got nothing in common, etc etcf etc. When before we had this total thing about spending the rest of our live stogetehr becaus we fell in love. But now shes not the same person and i dont know what the hell happened. I feel like a dog following her around now trying to talk to her, but she doesnt seem to really want to talk to me.. but she talks to all her other friends. I ask her to talk to me, and she says "we dont have anything to talk about". i always got the feeling that when italked to her she thought i was boring cus she always falls asleep on me on the phone.

So yeah, what do i do? besides NEXT her? Ive been thinking of playing the game on her now, playing hard to get, not being so available etc etc. or when she walks off on me or ignores me i dont take that crap and walk off on her? But its not that simple when we use to have something together, it makes no sense to me. I think things will only get worse if i dont take her crap and i do the same things. i just want to solve all this.

Does anyone have any suggestions on what i should do?? please be NICE

oh yeah, ill list some things she had said that made me feel like she didnt want to be with me anymore.

"we need a break from eachother"
i asked her, do you still want to be with me? "i dont know"
"i want you to meet a girl and give her the world when you go to college"
"when you graduate i want to have ayear break, and if we really are meant to be then we will see eachother then"
"we are totally different, the way we think and everything"
the list goes on...

well she told me she loved me today.. twice.... she also kissed me today for the first time in 4 days. im just so confused. like wtf. do i take her to the prom or no??? i just want to klnow what the hell is going on with her, but she wont tell me, she says im just over reacting and im not. and its breaking my heart...
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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You're suffering from classic One-itis. You need to handle your business and keep her on the dangle as fvck buddy / cvm dumpster.

The easiest way to get over a girl is by finding two more to occupy her space.

Learn to let go.
 

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KarmaSutra said:
The easiest way to get over a girl is by finding two more to occupy her space.
I can second that, thi time last year - i was in sort of the same predicament... I used that info and it sorted out mad soon... Never saw the girl again - so it saved me time
 

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firstly dude that is a seriously long post, i have read around 1/2 of it and i know what you need to do, so next time, condense it.
Ok i think you should read more tips from hall of fame, but from my point of view i can deduce that: you were desperate before you met you GF(just a guess) because listen to what you are saying man, she had sex with you 6 times yet she never hangs out with you and treat you like trash?? i how desperate are you?? seriously, do you even love her? she has no respect you, face it she is a prostitute, she is one of those ghetto girls who just wants as much sex as we do. I mean if you want her just for sex that fine with us, but then why do you even come here and ask questions?
Solution: dump her, move on, girls who constantly accuse you of lying and cheating is probably doing it themselves, she is picking fights and treating you like trash, she never hangs out with you, this all lead to one direction, she is going to break up with you soon, do it before her, and after dumping her dont go crawling back like you are needy.
Are you even a DJ??
 

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WOW!! JUST A FUKKING WWOOWW!! First of all, really long post, I read it all, took me 1 hour to read it and to understand it, and to make the response good. I picture you as a FAT NERD Sitting and crying about life!! WDF IS WRONG WITH YOU?? STOP BEING A WUSSS!!!!!! DO you even know what are you doing?? HOw many mistakes you are making?? Dating some fukking psicho for months?? ARe you RETARDED??????? ARE YOU?? Men date, men have fun, men dump, men lead, men dont cry, MEN DONT act like babys, men dont follow girls, men dont talk on the phone for hours, men DO NOT ANNOY WOMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND WHAT ARE YOU DOing?? You are acting like a total pathetic looser!!!! YES you are a looser!! I would have slapped you thousands of times so you would wake the fukk up!!!! YOU MUST MUST MUST DUMP the girl!!! Doesnt matter if she fukking begs, couse thats were you will learn to become a man!!!DUMP HER< FUKK THE OTHERS, Read DJ BIBLE, I am really not in the mood to write you 50 page essay on what you did wrong, couse you did everything wrong!! You are such a looser, even girls treat you like shyt!!


^^ Take This post seriously, couse it holds the truth, and dont be mad at me for calling you a looser, you cant learn your mistakes unless you understand them.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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DasaniWater

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umm

First : she was a virgin
second : im a body builder im not a fat nerd.
3rd : i just found out some new stuff today. she said she still has a lot of feelings for me and still loves me, but shes being this way cus she doesnt want to be so attached with me anymore cus she says its just high school love.. so basically shes like blocking all her love and making herself get over me..

shy dude i dont giv a fuk if u think im a loser because im sure in real life compared to me you would be worse as hell. now everyone stop acting tough on the keyboard thanks
 

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DasaniWater said:
First : she was a virgin
second : im a body builder im not a fat nerd.
3rd : i just found out some new stuff today. she said she still has a lot of feelings for me and still loves me, but shes being this way cus she doesnt want to be so attached with me anymore cus she says its just high school love.. so basically shes like blocking all her love and making herself get over me..

shy dude i dont giv a fuk if u think im a loser because im sure in real life compared to me you would be worse as hell. now everyone stop acting tough on the keyboard thanks


Dude, YOu take things to seriously here. I am not a looser and I dont stick around with women that dissrispect me, second of all I was trying to make my point, and I might have been a little to hursh but that was to make you see what your doing.

Good luck dating her
 

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dasani, ALL ur posts are about ur gf.....u just joined sosuave to complain and nag in a very obvious situation where u should just DUMP her and DUMP HER NOW........u have 20 posts, all within days of each other, all complaining about this gf of urs who obv wants no part of u but shes stringing u along for the fun of it - she is a real *****, if I were U, not only would I dump her, but id tell her that i been cheating on her the whole time with a much nicer better girl, and thats that........THIS IS A BRIDGE YOU NEED TO BURN FAAAAAAAAAAST..........no more threats about this girl, PERIOD - i wanna see u start a thread about cold approaching or lay reports, SINCE YOU ARE SO HOT AND MUSCULAR, YOU SHOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM MACKIN DA LADIES RITE???? cmon dasani, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, whos with me on that?
 
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