“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Guys here over 30, how is social life like at your age OUTSIDE of women?

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I have always thrived in a social atmosphere and prefer to be a part of social circles myself, when I am not I am just not that happy (as I have noticed with myself recently). Back in college I was in a fraternity and really enjoyed that aspect of life and after college I had fun making friends with people I bartended with. Now I am working a more white collar sort of job but will eventually move on to a bigger role, haven't had as much access to a social circle lately because I am working long hours (60+).

Even when I look around with guys over 30 and people over 30 in general.

1. Most are married/have kids, think this will change for millennials though, hopefully!

2. A lot of guys who are single are more alone by choice and prefer to live that lone wolf lifestyle which doesn't really appeal to me.

3. Even the few guys over 30 I have seen who manage to make it happen are with low value people in their groups like old women past their prime, weird old guys, and not really a group I would want to be a part of.

So outside of women, how is your social life like?
 

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At 46, I'm a regular at all of the local hangout spots. Everyone knows my name. I'm a good tipper. I have extra ammo if you ever need it.
 

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Im 30

I have two very close male friends who are roughly my age.

One i live with, the other one i train with every day at the gym.

The one i live with has a GF at the moment and has become domesticated but i dont see it lasting for more than a few months, the other one just went through a B/U and is a bit down in the dumps.

When all 3 of us are single its a good time.

As far as other friends go.... hmm

Well most guys i know who are my age have "cashed in their chips" so to say and are not much fun anymore. Living in dull relationships. Basically they settled.

And most guys who are younger are pretty immature. I do have a few friends in the early 20s but they are more friends ill just hit up if im clubbing or something.

It does get more difficult as you get older
 

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It does get more difficult as you get older
This is true. So the older you are, the more credit you deserve for landing a certain babe.

Most people are absolutely desperate to find some way to rain on your parade, which is why Coach Corey Wayne stopped talking about relationships to anyone. I've observed the same thing. People immediately assume the absolute worst. "You're paying her?" "So you have a lot of money?" "So she's a *****?".

Any time you do something worthwhile, you're going to offend someone.
 

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Not sure what you mean bro? Dealing with haters, when you land a hot babe in your 30s and beyond?
Yes, in particular women who are 5 years younger when you are dating women 25 years younger, when they can observe that the young lady is in love. They go from "He's paying!" to "He tricked her!".
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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I'm 41, seeing a 28 year old and I can tell some women around my age and older have a problem with it.

I tell myself , they are just pissed because they are reminded of their diminished/diminishing SMV.
Dude they hate it even if they can see why
 
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Guess that's the worst part about being at the top then, it is so lonely. Even if you make it, it is good but you have to worry about others making it too so you have people to party with, hang out with, and have a fun time with. @bigneil and I have often got into arguments about this and while I find college to be very over-hyped as a whole, that is the one thing it did do.

With more singles past the age of 30, I am hoping that this does change for us men especially when I hit my 30s. I am hoping that more guys exist who are fed up with the idea of marriage and just want to live in Neverland to an extent, meaning they want to make friends and have fun instead of cashing in their chips.
 

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It's tough but i wouldn't trade my life for the life of my best friends during my 20s. Their wives are fat and lives are dull, it doesn't appeal to me much.

Single girls my age (32) hate when I date girls who are 25 or so, they say it's "pathetic" but I couldn't care less and I know they're jealous that my sexual market value is going up and theirs is going down.
 
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It's tough but i wouldn't trade my life for the life of my best friends during my 20s. Their wives are fat and lives are dull, it doesn't appeal to me much.

Single girls my age (32) hate when I date girls who are 25 or so, they say it's "pathetic" but I couldn't care less and I know they're jealous that my sexual market value is going up and theirs is going down.
It puzzles me how getting laid is easier after 30 but making cool friends around your own age and having that kicka$$ social life is significantly harder.
 

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It puzzles me how getting laid is easier after 30 but making cool friends around your own age and having that kicka$$ social life is significantly harder.
You finally said something true.

As my late, great friend said: Friends come and go, but you can only trust people from the old neighborhood
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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You finally said something true.

As my late, great friend said: Friends come and go, but you can only trust people from the old neighborhood
I mean a group of people to party hard and socialize with somewhat on the regular would be great tbh.
 

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It puzzles me how getting laid is easier after 30 but making cool friends around your own age and having that kicka$$ social life is significantly harder.
This is where it helps if you are not obsessed with chasing women 24/ 7. Taking to time to chill with a couple of mates at a bar is invaluable. I think they also appreciate your ability to bring women into group. I noticed my mates gawking at a hottie who came in. When I bought a beer, I just struck up a casual conversation with her. They were astonished.
 
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My idea of a social life being more having a large social circle instead of a couple of mates at a bar to chill with....
 

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My idea of a social life being more having a large social circle instead of a couple of mates at a bar to chill with....
I'm not sure whether I am interested in that. As I've got older, I've tended to have just a few friendships of any depth. But then from that base, I meet people out and about at the acquaintances level.
 

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I see my high school buddies when I can for dinner and catch up on occasion. A majority are married and are in the planning for kids phase now in our mid-30s. I hung out with them more when I was married, but less after I separated from the ex-spouse and divorced.

I've met a few friends later through a hobby/interest group that I can chat or hang with but it's usually small talk w/o depth like I have with my high school friends. One exception is a former neighbor I stayed friends with after we both left our apartment complex. In general, yes it's harder.

You have to make more of an effort to build a friendship, but nowadays, everyone is so busy... working long hours trying to get further along in our careers and business practices.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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This is where it helps if you are not obsessed with chasing women 24/ 7. Taking to time to chill with a couple of mates at a bar is invaluable. I think they also appreciate your ability to bring women into group. I noticed my mates gawking at a hottie who came in. When I bought a beer, I just struck up a casual conversation with her. They were astonished.
Don't hang around men who gawk at women and/or are surprised that you don't scare them off. You are much better off alone.

My idea of a social life being more having a large social circle instead of a couple of mates at a bar to chill with....
You mean Facebook?
 

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Don't hang around men who gawk at women and/or are surprised that you don't scare them off. You are much better off alone.


You mean Facebook?
Wot, go out with PUAs instead? No thanks, that's not my idea of a chill evening.
 

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Wot, go out with PUAs instead? No thanks, that's not my idea of a chill evening.
Learn from the masters. And by all means avoid men who are not successful with women. Go alone if you have to.

We mimic the people we associate with. We use their terms, their body language. I shared an apartment with a guy from work 1-2 years ago, and he turned out to be a 40 year old virgin. When I started dating my current girlfriend (4 months after he moved out, ending an 8 month slump I was in) she said my body language was strange at first. I realized I had started acting like a virgin!
 

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Learn from the masters. And by all means avoid men who are not successful with women. Go alone if you have to.

We mimic the people we associate with. We use their terms, their body language. I shared an apartment with a guy from work 1-2 years ago, and he turned out to be a 40 year old virgin. When I started dating my current girlfriend (4 months after he moved out, ending an 8 month slump I was in) she said my body language was strange at first. I realized I had started acting like a virgin!
Well, it depends what your intentions are. But it's a good point you raise about who you keep company with. With that in mind, I like to keep moving in various circles if I can.

At my age, going out alone with the sole intention to 'score' is creepy... in my opinion. That's a younger man's game. Even then though it's better for him to go out with a mate, have a social evening, and maybe draw some lucky lady into the fun he is genuinely having. He will become more of an 'all-rounder' that way... instead of being overly-developed in one area... and becoming 'lop-sided'.
 

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At my age, going out alone with the sole intention to 'score' is creepy... in my opinion.
He didn't just say "creepy" did he. @bigneil do you reckon this is coming from a feminized mind or from a man who's not very comfortable in his own skin?
Even then though it's better for him to go out with a mate, have a social evening, and maybe draw some lucky lady into the fun he is genuinely having. He will become more of an 'all-rounder' that way... instead of being overly-developed in one area... and becoming 'lop-sided'.
Talking in extremes again. As if a man who decides that he wants to get laid that night and has the balls to go out and do it, is not socially developed in all aspects of life. Naive pretentious thinking. Player shaming as usual from this guy. "the supposed non players are simply throwing dust in your eyes"

Learn from the masters. And by all means avoid men who are not successful with women. Go alone if you have to.
Exactly. What does that tell you if his friends are clueless with women. this one has just recently learned to chat to women, but still believes he's not in the game.....still afraid to pull the trigger. Easier to deny game and stay celibate.

Don't hang around men who gawk at women and/or are surprised that you don't scare them off. You are much better off alone.
True that. It's when you're really progressing in life you become picky with whom you socialize. In fact, sometimes it's just a natural
progression........the blue pillers fade away. I think that's why this guy is trying to distance himself from "game" and being seen as a "player".......he doesn't want to offend women or his blue pill gormless "friends". So better to stay gormless and bluepill by denying game and stating that you're above "players"....

You want to make an omelet, you got to break a few eggs.
 
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