"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Guys, have you ever had a girl with a bf agree to go out with you

Kal0051

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I'm just wondering. This is about that girl I posted about. I asked her if she wanted to get a drink with me and she seemed keen about it. Which isn't what I was expecting, I expected a "oh, I have a bf" or "ya, we should hit up the bars" or something, instead her response was "when?". And I'm pretty sure she has a bf so it is kind of confusing to me, never encountered that before. I'd understand if we ever hung out or even talked before but last week was the first time we had a convo and not only did she seem interested, she even gave me her number without hesitation. I don't think I'll have a problem holding a conversation with her when we go out, but it would be nice to know what she's expecting (does she know I asked her out, or does she just think it's a friends thing). Thanks for any insights you may provide. And tips would be nice too (she's the first girl I've gone out with in a while, so my confidence is sort of low).
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Plenty. Some of them will just want to hang out for fun because they're bored. Some want to take advantage of suckers who buy them drinks & sh!t. Some want to cheat on their BFs.

It's up to you. What do you want from her? Just hang out & have fun? Get her to cheat on her BF for a night? Use her as social proof to get to her hot single friends or as your wingwoman?
 

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If you're more interesting than her bf (or husband), she'll go for it.

When a man and a woman have been together for a significant amount of time, the man quits being interesting and instead settles into a "I have her now, no need to impress or seduce" attitude. Ever notice how most movies focus on actually getting the girl instead of maintaining the relationship? People seem to parallel what they see in the media, and the media doesn't have much to offer for maintaining a relationship other than the traditional Valentine's day candy and flowers, and maybe a fvcking diamond ring.

As such, after the man gets the woman, they are supposed to live happily ever after. But how does one do that? With candy and flowers?

If you can do more than give a woman candy, flowers, and tell her "I love you", then you're already more interesting than her significant other.
 

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Yeah man, girls will easily give out their numbers, even hang out with you even though they have boyfriends. Girls trick themselves into believing you want to be their friend, so they don't feel guilty hanging out with you. Like Jitter said, there's many reasons though. Only you would know if she's on the friend tip though, or she seems up for something else. Either way, hang out and see what happens, gain a new girl friend, or if she's down, get a lil azz.
 

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Dude, how many threads are you gonna make about this chick? First of all, you dont even know if she has a BF. Second of all, we cant hold your hand for you. There is plenty of information on here for you to read and apply. Get a drink together, have fun, make her laugh, and kino escalate. You're gonna fvck this whole situation up by analyzing it.

The one piece of advice I can give you, is if she starts talking about her BF in a bad way, change the subject and move forward. If she brings him up in a good way or throws the 'your a great friend' card, chug your drink, throw down a few bucks, and say "You know what? I gotta go." YOU ARE NOT THERE TO BE HER FRIEND, got it? Dont worry about being nice. Why keep driving down a dead end road? Put it in reverse and peel the fvck out, and offer NO apologies for it.

You already have oneitis for this chick. If it doesnt go where you want, abandon mission. Lose her number, and move on.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Kal0051

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lol, unfortunately I think your wrong about me having oneitis for this girl. But I agree with you about everything else. I just wanted to see if anyone else has encountered this. I know what I need to do when I'm out with her, though it's always great to get tips that I didn't know. I don't intend to be her friend, if she doesn't seem interested or she mentions her boyfriend then I'll move on to the next girl (and there are other girls, though they didn't seem as interested).
 
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Yes and I have even had a married woman's husband almost put a $2,000.00 contract out on my life but she found out about it and his dealings with Vegas.

I try not to mess with other men's women these days. I keep reading in the paper or hearing how some symp shot the girl, her boyfriend and then himself over stupid emotional stuff.

Something the size of a quarter isn't worth my life.
 

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Desdinova said:
If you're more interesting than her bf (or husband), she'll go for it.

When a man and a woman have been together for a significant amount of time, the man quits being interesting and instead settles into a "I have her now, no need to impress or seduce" attitude. Ever notice how most movies focus on actually getting the girl instead of maintaining the relationship? People seem to parallel what they see in the media, and the media doesn't have much to offer for maintaining a relationship other than the traditional Valentine's day candy and flowers, and maybe a fvcking diamond ring.

As such, after the man gets the woman, they are supposed to live happily ever after. But how does one do that? With candy and flowers?

If you can do more than give a woman candy, flowers, and tell her "I love you", then you're already more interesting than her significant other.
Damn Desdinova, you always know how to respond! Solid gold!
 
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