Guy friend social dynamics

[ssj4halo]

LONG POST

cliff version:
I dont know how to "hang out" with guys.
I dont know how to act around guys"
need help how to act and socialize with meeting new guys and old guy friends.
conclusion? need help.

LONG VERSION

Okay, so there are a LOT of good posts on female social dynamics and theories about how they act and the reasons why they do.

I am VERY different than the common guy you know. I don't really talk **** to my close friends or spend time F*kin with them, my friends give me a lot of ****(even though Im the only person who is better-ing myself..and I just dont retaliiate)

I guess my request is can someone tell me how I should act towards GUYS? When do I act tough?
WHen/How do I treat them if I want to DHV them, if I want to show them homieness?
How do I act when all your guy friends think they are better than you...am I supposed to show off and prove I am not or just stay unaffected?
How do you act when you meet a new guy(act tough?)?
how do you act when you are beta in your group and you get introduced to an alpha person by the alpha person in your group.
How do you act around an alpha male when you are talking to a girl and that alpha male?
How to talk to the alpha male in your own group(and make him see you are alpha now)?

etc.

I can go on....but this forum is about becoming a better man. I read lots of threads about getting better with women and social dynamics, like this one i am reading right now:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=83349

Can someone tell me the "guy" version of this?

Yes, it took a lot of balls to post this thread which basically says "Im 21 but I dont know how to act around guys" But its true, and its been messing up my social life big time since the beg....

Thanks.

 

[Frog X]

Give sh1t.

Take sh1t.

Have your own beliefs and values.

If they push these boundaries, defend yourself (with wit, getting physical would be pretty inappropriate haha) Let them know your not a pushover.

I think thats all that making male friendships comes down to. If your semi cool you should be able to make some connections.

Lol, maybe stop referring to the 'alpha' of your group? If you subconciously consider him your alpha, he is your alpha

 

[Son of anarchy]

Dont be afraid to threat a punch if somebody make fun of you heavily in front of others first of all,they are not your friends and even a threat or a bad look can make them stop while others can start to respect you.
After you earn someone respect you will have a chance to get his friendship,it's hard to establish friendshipe with someone who dont respect you.
That doesnt mean to kick everybody make a joke about your shoes but just to stop buying those bull**it where you have to be nice everytime to everyone for the "supreme good".
If it can count i had a fist fight with my best friend when we met few years ago and now we are almost brothers to even share girls.

 

[Daddy The Pimp]

check under my name , i have a thread on how to make alpha males respect you and try to befriend you. But you need some skills on PU before doing that. You need to be able to Open sets constantly. Read my thread on tips section about opening , it might help.

Anyway , all this how to act and bllah bllah its just going to screw you up. Become a MAN and youll be alpha male for yourself and youll not need to act around anyone.

If ur asking HOW to become a MAN , first ask urself if ur ready for a long painful journey that will change your life forever. If yes , tell me and ill help.

 

[ssj4halo]

will do daddy.....hahaha that sounded funny. Found thread, going to read right after this.

Anyways, I already started my journey to manhood a good year ago haha. Im just on the bottom of my social circle(there are a couple of alphas in my group good looking, personality, and the other goodies) But they perceive me as a newb and inexperienced. They baby me basically...like I am their little brother or something

It is funny because I probably know more or as much about life lessons and women then some of them due to this forum even though they treat me like I know nothing. kinda ironic...

 

[Daddy The Pimp]

You might know all the theory. But do you take action ?

Really. What do you do to reach your goal of becoming master ?

Do you approach at least 5 womens a day ?
You should know that if you're not taking massive action and if you're not serious and ready to invest a lot of time and emotions without expecting an great outcome you're not going to succeed.

 

[ssj4halo]

yea, I am going to start doing that.

I went to the club today with my friends. I got shot down by 6 girls(0/6). Granted there weren't that many girls...girls to guy ratio was 4:1 in the club...but It made me realize that I have to take this more seriously.

so no. I don't take action normally...just time to time every other weekend. However, its something that I am trying to change. I actually met with a PUA in my home town area. He invited me to come tomorrow with him and his friend at night. I will get 4-5 hours of straight sarging. I hope that it can motivate me to start making sarging a everyday thing.

I also am going to meet with a PUA group in my college town. When I get back to college, I will try sarging 2-3 times a week with them. Of course I will start a field report thread and all. So I am trying to make a change.

Thanks for the feedback man

 

[Daddy The Pimp]

Cool man. Im happy that you plan to take this seriously.

You might get rejected and not see results immediately but STICK TO THE PLAN.

Keep doing it until it becomes ur attitude. Than it will be hard to stop.

Don't sarge every other weekend or every weekend. Sarge every day.
It will become so natural to you that you will have very easy for you.

Good luck , ill be looking forward to see your FR thread.

 

[Captain Harlock]

Dont be afraid to threat a punch if somebody make fun of you heavily in front of others first of all,they are not your friends and even a threat or a bad look can make them stop while others can start to respect you..

I really don't like the idea of punching people when you hardly know them. Even if they give you ****, you just need to demonstrate that there's a line they shouldn't cross, verbally. Intimidation, fine, but you can't just go around punching people. If someone did that to a friend of mine without saying a word I'd definitely tell him to **** off and not come back.

Of course it's okay to punch them if they don't back off after you tell them. Go crazy

some other input to this topic: don't worry about them treating you as their little brother. They hardly know you and you probably come off as inexperienced. Just let it come with time. If you act (as in take action, not acting) experienced then you will eventually be seen as experienced.

 

[Son of anarchy]

I really don't like the idea of punching people when you hardly know them. Even if they give you ****, you just need to demonstrate that there's a line they shouldn't cross, verbally. Intimidation, fine, but you can't just go around punching people. If someone did that to a friend of mine without saying a word I'd definitely tell him to **** off and not come back.

Of course it's okay to punch them if they don't back off after you tell them. Go crazy

some other input to this topic: don't worry about them treating you as their little brother. They hardly know you and you probably come off as inexperienced. Just let it come with time. If you act (as in take action, not acting) experienced then you will eventually be seen as experienced.

I respect your point of you but i see you are from the netherlands,so i remind you that not every country have the same culture and high level of civilization of yours.
Being peacefull and tollerant is for sure a good thing for every man everywhere,the problem is that in some places and cultures like mine,its common seen as weakness or lack of manlyness to allow someone to even make some jokes in a row...well maybe its a "test".
Thats why i gave that suggestion to the guy(and told him to think about it),in many environment respect and strengh are strictly tied (awfully).

 

[Captain Harlock]

Well, I'm pretty sure it's not seen as very weak if you can make a guy shut up with just your mouth in most cultures.

I can see your point though. About 40% of Dutch prisons is populated by guys from middle eastern cultures who are generally much more violent (though there's some good ones between them too of course). Dealing with those guys is much more trouble than dealing with dutch guys, which is why most people prefer to just stay away from them. Even other minorities don't like them.

 

[fertileTurtle]

Make sure your voice is always louder than theirs if they being a di>ck.
Kinda of like with a woman, don't lean in when you talks to them and don't always seem eager to talk to them. In fact, don't look at them when they talk to you sometimes.

 

[handle]

Only advice I can think of (which helped me) is that guys tend to talk more about actual THINGS, like sports, cars, etc. Even if it's not your bag -- it sure isn't for me -- keeping tabs on sports and all that helps for 'guy talk'. I hate to stereotype here but knowing a few hockey player names is like, instant social proof with guys. Also, I used to have this thing where I was like "I don't want to talk about girls with people, that's private business" in the past, which made conversations about chicks odd. Once I loosened up I realized not only is it a useful way of being "one of the guys," but it also gives you a sense of connection. Guys bond over **** like that, it may seem shallow but you really do feel it. I'm not saying change your interests, but just be aware of typical guy stuff.