"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Grinding in the club! Does it lead to anything? How?

Reyaj

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Ok to make a long story short... I grinded with like 3 chicks this weekend at the club...

First chick: Grinded with me for a few songs then pretty much told me Im giong to go dance with my friends now...

Second chick: grinded with me, but everytime i moved my hands close to her ass she moved my hands away... I got tired of this and left.

Thirs chick: damn she was hot, grinded with me hardcore and for a while. I was moving my hands all over her. Totally into me... Then suddenly her female friend c-blocked me and pulled her away from me... I looked at her and smiled and she did too... I didn't know if I should have still tried to dance with her or if it looked too desperate so I didn't go to her and she danced with her friend..

Anyway my question is this.... Grinding seems to be fun but thats all it is... I don't see it leading to anything more than that....

Is there a way to get a number or a hook up from this? If so I need advice from some pros.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Have you tried speaking to them?
 

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I believe that chicks go to clubs for fun with their friends.
Men go to clubs to pull.

Sometimes it works.
Most of the time it doesn't
 

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Yes and No

I'm not that experienced, so I don't know how my results would hold up over the long haul. I mainly go to clubs on holidays or an occasional weekend night.

I can get a makeout session almost everytime. Pulling is a little harder. Why don't you try this first for a make out session. Use standard techniques posted elsewhere to go for a score once you feel up to it. I'm an 8.6 according to hot or not. I don't know how big of a factor looks might be.

Here is some examples (mostly) before I ever read any seductionadvice. Obviously, you should be able to do much better.

Case #1: A week before NYE, 1999 or so. Spot two girls at both not dancing. Approach them and (gasp) buy a drink. I had no one to jump on the gernade, so I just made out with the good looking one in the club. They drove me back to my car but I was too drunk to contrieve a way to seperate the two and get her into bed.

Case #2: NYE Went out with girl from case#1. She talked to other dudes alot, I got annoyed started drinking and havign fun. Ended up dancign FREAKY with a black girl, hand up top, etc. After dancing, I asked her let's get out of here. She agreed and I was successful in pulling.

Case#3: Spring, 2000 or so. Girl sits outside club. A few people are talking but she's seperate. I start up a convo. A few minutes later I move closer and touch her hand to ask about a ring. We ended up holding hands within a few minutes. I ask her to walk up to the store with me. We get sodas. I take her bck to her hotel room because her friends aren't up there yet. Got her number for future reference but she flaked on me (maybe because I didn't call for over 2 weeks or so my ego screeams).

Case #4: Last weekend. Just danced, drank, etc. Shared a taxi with a hottie who ended up frenching me on the way home. I can't remember who started it, actually. She was gone when I woke up. I have no idea who she was or how she got home.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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This subject has been beaten to death, but dance clubs are way overrated.

The upscale lounge type bars are better becaue the women aren't there to dance.

They're their to meet people.
 

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First of all, please note that grinding is not dancing, it's grinding.

IF you really want to get a girl's attention... learn how to actually dance.

But to a woman it is just that 95% of the time, fun. Women don't go to the club to look for sex, they go to get their ego's stoked. You will be disopointed if you went to the club to meet women... I mean, I HAVE had some sucess at clubs, but I don't go expecting it. I go to dance and have drinks with my friends... I end up dancing with women and if one of them interests me I get their number.
 

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HELL NO!!!!

I grind millions of women and you might pick up like 4 at most

it's one of the best places to talk to a girl though...I think i work magic on the floor..:)
 

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Originally posted by MercutioTHEGREAT
HELL NO!!!!

I grind millions of women and you might pick up like 4 at most

it's one of the best places to talk to a girl though...I think i work magic on the floor..:)
I thought you were leaving this site for a few months. Isnt that what you said when i called you out on your bull**** contradictions?

Ninja out
 

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maybe it depends on your game.

for instance...

all arrogance aside, my room mate and i are good looking. every now and again we have a guys night out. pretty much, we start drinking at our house, smoke a blunt, get dressed up, and head to the bars with a nice buzz going. we get there, start drinking and having fun, checking out all the hot ass... and thats about it.

more than half the time, we either run into girls we already know/hooked up with, or catch a couple girls eyeing us and go talk to them. theyre usually down for whatever.

everybody runs into attention *****s, flakes, cute girls with the ugly/annoying/unseperable friend... but otherwise were pretty successful

but whether its because were good looking, or have game, or just go out to get fvcked up and have a good time, or all three... i couldnt tell you.

regardless, bottom line, make sure youre going out to have fun FIRST. pick up women SECOND.

-SLB
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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dude, the post had nothing to do with talking to women in clubs, it had to do with griding with women in clubs and does it lead to anything. Unless she is already and wants to rape you, no it won't.
 

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Grinding a girl in a club will more often then not end up in grinding your hand alone in your bedroom that night/morning.

Ninja out
 

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Originally posted by Black_Italian
I thought you were leaving this site for a few months. Isnt that what you said when i called you out on your bull**** contradictions?

Ninja out



^^^left for a couple of weeks not a couple months^^^


LOLz that whole argument thing.. im sooo ova that dude what ever u wanna think...i don't care it's old..

it's the 10th commandment in the Dj commandments

"don't tear down your fellow dj's that's what women do"

look it up..
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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lolz damn?? was it that short o well i was probably being AFC or some sh!t.. time to set that aside and get more chicks kno what i mean?

I Did a Sh!t load of sarging during that time and got rejected alot but i still got some play...im trying to get even better by going through a change..
 

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For the love of god would you please stop asking the same questions over and over. Some people like clubs, some don't. Some people know how to pull a chick from a club with no hassle, for some it takes effort. Grinding on a chic may or may not lead to something else depending on the club, location, and situation you're in. Forget what people tell you, because there are so many variables in the situation that you'll never be able to nail down what you're scene is like without going out and experiencing it over and over for yourself
 

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But thats my point and what Im asking...

This weekend I was able to grind sucessfully with a few girls but thats all it was...

What do I have to do to escalate it? It seems like we grind for a few songs and thats it....
 

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from my experience, some chicks will grind for fun, some because they think you look hot and are interested in hooking up..

It depends on the club and the music and your looks which one you're more likely to bump into since most times you're not going to talk to them before you start dancing.

From my experience the ones who are actuallly interested in hooking up will give you decent repeated eye contact before you start dancing and be more than happy to touch you and your hands.. at some point they'll turn to dance face to face (or look back over their shoulder) with plenty of EC expecting you to kiss them and thats when you either make the move or decide to tease them a bit..
The other type will never turn to face you or make prolonged EC. For them its all about teasing you, making themselves feel good, and then running off when they're bored..

My advice is try and work out what type the girl is as soon as possible, I don't think there's much you can change in the way you grind.
 

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Just get her number right away and move on. Call her later. I would go through how i pickup at clubs but it is allot to explain and I believe it will be beyond your comprehension.

Ninja out
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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