"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

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NobodyCares1

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This is a long and copmlicated story but I'll try to shorten it as much as possible without leaving important details...

The girl is maybe just about a HB6 or so but she is the best GF material that I've ever seen... I met her about 7 months ago...

about 3 and a half month ago it started to be more serious with us but still I didn't feel ready for a relationship... I wanted to gain some experience with girls before I go into relationship... also I can be honest with you guys I could do better looking girl than she is... but that wouldn't matter that much because I still found her attractive so that was something I could overlook... especially since it's really hard to find such good GF material...

anyway at the end of June we were going out a lot... the school was ending and she said that we probably won't see eachother much during the summer (she was right) anyway at that time I decided to wait with anything about the relationship at least till the summerbreak ends (September)... at this time I was sure she wanted a relationship and I even kiss closed a few time although she didn't want to give the kiss so easily (she said she doesn't want to give kisses too easy to anyone... it's not so weird as you might think in here)

but at the beginning of July I went to a concert... made out with a girl and HB found out... at that point when I told her I'd like a kiss she would just respond with "You have other people for that :)" anyway next time we were together (about 20 days after the concert) I managed to kiss close again... she was still very interested... everything was going fine until one week when I was in a bad mood and she was too...

I was playfully asking her about this Beta that was trying to date her... she said that he is telling her about how good looking she is and so on... but he lives about 200km from here... he was here just on vacation for a week... but after a couple of days he came back just because of her (I felt sorry for him actually) anyway she had no interest in him... but later that week she just didn't want to answer anything I asked about her and guys and so on... she never really liked talking about her past experiences with guys but she did tell me more easily... now she seemed angry when I asked...

anyway we had a meeting set up... but texted that day a bit and she didn't want to answer any of my questions... she was avoiding answering them the whole week basically... but she said something about that she could be out only util 9PM and when I asked why she didn't want to answer a got angry over me asking... so I was a bit angry too and she left before we could even set up time when we would meet up... later she sent me a text message to my phone "If you still want to see me you can find me at (some place) :)"

to make it short we met... I was still a bit angry but had a conversation with her... she then even told me why she couldn't stay longer (her sister was ill) then we went for a walk... we talked and hugged as usual... then I wanted to stand for a while but she wanted to keep walking... and she had this thing that she always wanted to prove that I'm not always right (up untill this point everything important was the way I said it would be) so I stood there and she wanted to go... I told her that we will stay here for a while... but she still wanted to go... this went on for about two minutes... then she just left and said something like "You're not the only one who can be so stubborn"
so I acted uninterested about her leaving... she actually left so I went home... I went NC on her for about a week and a half...

then she wrote to me "At least you could tell me why are you so angry, I should be angry even more"
I'm not going to post the whole convo here... It turned out that she was coming back when I decided to go home and that I looked at the path she was coming from but didn't notice her... from her point of view it looked like I saw her coming back and then turned around and left...

anyway she later said that she won't do that ever again that this experience would last her for a lifetime... anything went back to being good again...

up until I went to the disco last week... made out with another girl there... she then added me on FB

HB knew I was at the disco and started to ask me about the girl I added on FB... I didn't want to tell her that I made out with her so was kinda avoidant in my answers... still everything seemed fine... though she might be a bit angry...

anyway yesterday she wrote to me something like this (without answering the question I asked in the message I sent her before... we were basically texting on FB continuously...)

HB "I've wanted to bring my life and relationships to order and I've finally got it :)"

I naturally asked How is she going to do it...

HB "I've realised that right now I don't want any relationship and that I actually don't know any guy that would be good for me... bla bla something about how is she going to change her life not important... but of course not think about guys now :D"

then the conversation shifted to just about how she's going to change her life and at one point I wrote to her "Well it's your life do whatever you like ;)"

and then the conversation got a bit more serious

HB "Yes, it's my life and I'm going to change it"

ME "that sounded harsh :)"

HB "Alright I'm going offline now, bye. I don't know when I will be back since I don't want to be at a PC for some time"

at this point I knew she wanted to go NC on me because we never said bye to eachother... normally she would just go offline and replyed to my message next time she would be there...

ME "ok bye... at least you can think about how to make it up for me (the situation where she left in the middle of a date)"

HB "I don't know if I'll be in a mood for it and if I want to make anything up"

ME "Well you'll have to ;)"

HB "what if not"

ME "You know I can get really angry"

HB "I'll see"

ME "Well then I'll see too"

HB "Fine, I'm going..."

ME "bye... good night..."

HB "you too"

so that's the end of it... I don't really want to lose her... I do really like her and really thought about having a relationship with her... I just wanted to wait for a while... do you think that there is any solution to this or should I just get over her and next her? I know she had a serious interest in a relationship with me... and I really think that this no PC thing is just so she could get over me...
 

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NobodyCares1

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nah... I mean she might... but she definitely saw me in sexual manner and wanted ltr... I'm 100% sure of that... at the end of June... if anything I've friendzoned myself...
 

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NobodyCares1 said:
This is a long and copmlicated story but I'll try to shorten it as much as possible without leaving important details...

The girl is maybe just about a HB6 or so but she is the best GF material that I've ever seen... I met her about 7 months ago...

about 3 and a half month ago it started to be more serious with us but still I didn't feel ready for a relationship... I wanted to gain some experience with girls before I go into relationship... also I can be honest with you guys I could do better looking girl than she is... but that wouldn't matter that much because I still found her attractive so that was something I could overlook... especially since it's really hard to find such good GF material...

anyway at the end of June we were going out a lot... the school was ending and she said that we probably won't see eachother much during the summer (she was right) anyway at that time I decided to wait with anything about the relationship at least till the summerbreak ends (September)... at this time I was sure she wanted a relationship and I even kiss closed a few time although she didn't want to give the kiss so easily (she said she doesn't want to give kisses too easy to anyone... it's not so weird as you might think in here)

but at the beginning of July I went to a concert... made out with a girl and HB found out... at that point when I told her I'd like a kiss she would just respond with "You have other people for that :)" anyway next time we were together (about 20 days after the concert) I managed to kiss close again... she was still very interested... everything was going fine until one week when I was in a bad mood and she was too...

I was playfully asking her about this Beta that was trying to date her... she said that he is telling her about how good looking she is and so on... but he lives about 200km from here... he was here just on vacation for a week... but after a couple of days he came back just because of her (I felt sorry for him actually) anyway she had no interest in him... but later that week she just didn't want to answer anything I asked about her and guys and so on... she never really liked talking about her past experiences with guys but she did tell me more easily... now she seemed angry when I asked...DO NOT TALK ABOUT EX'S

anyway we had a meeting set up... but texted that day a bit and she didn't want to answer any of my questions... she was avoiding answering them the whole week basically... but she said something about that she could be out only util 9PM and when I asked why she didn't want to answer a got angry over me asking... so I was a bit angry too and she left before we could even set up time when we would meet up... later she sent me a text message to my phone "If you still want to see me you can find me at (some place) :)"And you went like a little puppy

to make it short we met... I was still a bit angry but had a conversation with her... she then even told me why she couldn't stay longer (her sister was ill) then we went for a walk... we talked and hugged as usual... then I wanted to stand for a while but she wanted to keep walking... and she had this thing that she always wanted to prove that I'm not always right (up untill this point everything important was the way I said it would be) so I stood there and she wanted to go... I told her that we will stay here for a while... but she still wanted to go... this went on for about two minutes... then she just left and said something like "You're not the only one who can be so stubborn"
so I acted uninterested about her leaving... she actually left so I went home... I went NC on her for about a week and a half...

then she wrote to me "At least you could tell me why are you so angry, I should be angry even more"
I'm not going to post the whole convo here... It turned out that she was coming back when I decided to go home and that I looked at the path she was coming from but didn't notice her... from her point of view it looked like I saw her coming back and then turned around and left...

anyway she later said that she won't do that ever again that this experience would last her for a lifetime... anything went back to being good again...
She didnt like you being angry / jealous
up until I went to the disco last week... made out with another girl there... she then added me on FB

HB knew I was at the disco and started to ask me about the girl I added on FB... I didn't want to tell her that I made out with her so was kinda avoidant in my answers... still everything seemed fine... though she might be a bit angry...she thinks youre trying to use her, thats the 2nd girl shes asked about, shes getting fed up

anyway yesterday she wrote to me something like this (without answering the question I asked in the message I sent her before... we were basically texting on FB continuously...)

HB "I've wanted to bring my life and relationships to order and I've finally got it :)"

I naturally asked How is she going to do it...

HB "I've realised that right now I don't want any relationship and that I actually don't know any guy that would be good for me... bla bla something about how is she going to change her life not important... but of course not think about guys now :D"translation: "youre a ****, and the best you can hope for is to sit in my friend zone, i'm sick of your ****, and i am no longer interested"

then the conversation shifted to just about how she's going to change her life and at one point I wrote to her "Well it's your life do whatever you like ;)"

and then the conversation got a bit more serious

HB "Yes, it's my life and I'm going to change it"

ME "that sounded harsh :)"

HB "Alright I'm going offline now, bye. I don't know when I will be back since I don't want to be at a PC for some time"

at this point I knew she wanted to go NC on me because we never said bye to eachother... normally she would just go offline and replyed to my message next time she would be there...

ME "ok bye... at least you can think about how to make it up for me (the situation where she left in the middle of a date)"

HB "I don't know if I'll be in a mood for it and if I want to make anything up"

ME "Well you'll have to ;)"

HB "what if not"

ME "You know I can get really angry"

HB "I'll see"

ME "Well then I'll see too"

HB "Fine, I'm going..."

ME "bye... good night..."

HB "you too"

so that's the end of it... I don't really want to lose herwaaay too late... I do really like her and really thought about having a relationship with her... I just wanted to wait for a while... do you think that there is any solution to this or should I just get over her and next her? I know she had a serious interest in a relationship with me... and I really think that this no PC thing is just so she could get over me...
Game over on this one, she doesn't even want you in the friendzone right now. NEXT!
 

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about that me going like a little puppy :D I first sent her a text message saying "And wouldn't you rather be with your friends? Have some fun with them?" she then replied something like "I don't know if you're angry or what but I wouldn't write to you otherwise, so it's your decision :)" she's kind of avoiding to say if she would radher be with her friends or with me... the way she wrote it to me it was more in style that suggested she would be rather with me... but this translated version sounds different...

anyway you just confirmed what I knew :D I was a **** to her... funny that she's basically the only girl I really care for and trust (other than my family)... I hoped for some advice how to get this fixed though I don't really think there is any... but for now I guess I'll leave it like this for two weeks.. then the school begins and I'll definitely meet her... maybe I'll try talking to her then...

though I don't think she already isn't interested at all... but she doesn't want to be interested... that's why she's going NC... to forget about me...

still thanks for the reply...
 

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Real talk: the second she found out you made out with another girl, IT WAS OVER.

She tried to stay around longer so as not to look like she was holding a grudge... but dude: YOU MADE OUT WITH ANOTHER GIRL.

You lost her trust, bottom line. But then again, if you really wanted to be with her, you wouldn't have made out with another girl. So, take it as a loss and suck it up.
 

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long post so im going by thead title sonill be brieif:

1. she"s testing you
2. she"s not interested
3. she"s playing games
4. add up 1-3 and theres your answer
 

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Judge nismo reveiwed your case.

Here's how to make this long story short. You are in the friendzone and your princess is in another castle. You lost her. :cry:

You are guilty of failure to escalate, and failure to maintain her trust. This comes with a fine of losing the girl, and multiple nights with your hand.

Move on. It's over. Understand that right the f**k now.

Case closed.
 

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god damnit I get it... but it's not easy... you might be right about the escalation... the best time to start a relationship with her was in June... then it all stagnated for a month and eventually came to a downfall...
 
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