"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Great way to separate feminine and non-feminine women

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I just thought of this after reading the New York Times thing on the end of chivalry.

Ask her what kind of food she likes. Take her someplace to eat. Order for her (don't let her talk, just tell the person what she wants).

If she flips out, you have a feminist on your hands. If she looks slightly uncomfortable, still no good.

If she likes it, that tells you.

Quick tip, may be useful, don't use it if it's not your style.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Could work. The food has to be easy, like pizza. Just walk in and order two slices. Hahaha, that would be a fun experiment. Imagine the biatch flips the fųck out!?

You can always roll back and say, "those slices were for me!"
 

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Women don't like to make decisions. They want you to pick the meal. That's why it pisses me off how many waiters/waitresses ask the woman first. Modern women can't resist taking charge, blabbing away about their preferences.

I don't like to have to go around correcting people about their manners. Having to assert myself after a woman or ill-mannered waiter makes a mistake, makes a night out more like a night of work.
 

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I don't know about you guy but I hate when people try and order for me or recommend sh1t to me. Women aren't pets... what the hell kind of a person takes you out to a restaurant and then tries to order for you??? Just rude and condescending.
 

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I agree with livefree (this time). If you want to see if she is feminine just observe her behaviour. She should exhibit the following characteristics (partial list):

1. Is ok following your lead
2. Likes affection / is affectionate
3. Doesn't try to be tough or prove anything to anyone, somewhat passive
4. Is appreciative of what you do for her
5. Dresses like a woman, cares about looking pretty for you
6. Doean't swear or burp or talk about sexual sh*t (she'll do it but won't talk about it)
7. Is concerned with her friends opinions in general
8. Is eager to please you (in and out of bed) and doesn't take issue with that
9. Wants to be a mother some day / loves kids and animals
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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LiveFreeX said:
Women aren't pets... what the hell kind of a person takes you out to a restaurant and then tries to order for you??? Just rude and condescending.
Who says anything about rude/condescending? I am polite as can be. Just sick of the feminist BS.

When everybody starts doing sh!t like this we will start seeing some changes.
 

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VladPatton said:
Could work. The food has to be easy, like pizza. Just walk in and order two slices. Hahaha, that would be a fun experiment. Imagine the biatch flips the fųck out!?

You can always roll back and say, "those slices were for me!"
LOL. Brilliant
 

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Darth said:
LOL. Brilliant
Who the fvck eats two slices of pizza?

I at least need on whole pizza for myself.
 

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Does usage of her cell matter? If she's constantly on her phone while you and her are out, would this indicate a feminist (you should consider dropping this date at this point)?
 

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Crazystarf said:
Does usage of her cell matter? If she's constantly on her phone while you and her are out, would this indicate a feminist (you should consider dropping this date at this point)?
I don't think so, more her reaction when you tell her, flatly, "Turn it off." She'll probably looked surprised. "Please." Then smile.

I used to think that being on the phone was a dealbreaker, but nowadays that's most women. Maybe they don't even know better. Maybe if you tell her no, she will stop it.

If not, well...

"Excuse me, I need to use the bathroom." Smile. Then leave the date.
Down Low said:
Women don't like to make decisions. They want you to pick the meal. That's why it pisses me off how many waiters/waitresses ask the woman first. Modern women can't resist taking charge, blabbing away about their preferences.
Right. So when that happens, just put your hand up, look at the waiter. "Excuse me." Smile. I'll have _____ and she will have _____. Thanks man.

He leaves. You look at her. Smile.

If her reaction is, "What a douchebag," she's not feminine.
If she is uncomfortable with that, she's not feminine.
If you are uncomfortable with the thought of doing this, you are probably 1. Not masculine or 2. Not reached a point where you've had it up to here with this touchy-feely don't make anybody uncomfortable spoiled stupid modern girl feminist crap.

I have;)
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Having dated a number of foreign women, I've noted that many of them would tell you what they wanted to eat/drink and expect you to make the order for them. If you order something for yourself and then wait for them to make their order, they react with confusion/embarrassment. It seems to be part of the dating etiquette in many cultures that the man makes the order for both. However, I think it would still be silly if not downright discourteous to order something without first inquiring what she wants.
 

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yuppaz said:
I agree with livefree (this time). If you want to see if she is feminine just observe her behaviour. She should exhibit the following characteristics (partial list):

1. Is ok following your lead
2. Likes affection / is affectionate
3. Doesn't try to be tough or prove anything to anyone, somewhat passive
4. Is appreciative of what you do for her
5. Dresses like a woman, cares about looking pretty for you
6. Doean't swear or burp or talk about sexual sh*t (she'll do it but won't talk about it)
7. Is concerned with her friends opinions in general
8. Is eager to please you (in and out of bed) and doesn't take issue with that
9. Wants to be a mother some day / loves kids and animals
I'd agree with those except for 6 and 9.
Some girls have a fowl mouth, and others hate kids. Both of those qualities I do not mind so long as she is also qualifying with the rest of the rules. Of course, that's just me.

In general, there are no rules to this. Applying rules like that to it sort of limits you. I suppose everyone will learn eventually... and if not, oh well.
 

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OP, I'm not sure why you would want to find "feminine" women then. Unless by "separate" you mean discard them.

Any chick who will gladly let you choose her meal will also gladly let you pay for her meal, as well as pay all her other bills, take care of all her financial problems, fix her toilet (or pay someone to do it), set up her new computer (after you've bought it for her), take her car to the mechanic, paint her house, etc. etc.

That's precisely the type of high-maintenance woman I have no interest in. I like women who can make their own decisions and take care of their own sh*t rather than let guys handle it, thanks.
 
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