"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Don Juan
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hey all... long time lurker, first time poster.

first of all, i would just like to say "wow". i have been studying much on this site for the past month, and about a week and a half ago i finally decided to put it into practice. my school went on a trip to california (im from NJ, so i got to fly there:up: ), and i used all the DJ skills i have learned. i noticed MOST of the girls on the trip gave me at least some IOIs when i started w/ my game, and that really boosted my confidence. several were starting to get really into me, but i backed off as they already had boyfriends, and i didnt want to start stealing chicks. a couple girls actually openly wanted to be my girlfriend, and were all over me for a majority of the trip and i just tried to play it smooth. i dont really want a girlfriend right now, as i want to work on improving my "game", so i didnt try to lead them on that much.

anyway, on to my dillema. at the beggining of the trip, i was really working on a girl that im interested in. it was going great, TONS of IOI's -eye contact, ADVANCED KINO, etc. all of the sudden, on about the third day, it just stopped. she didnt pay much attention to me, started hanging out with different people and so on. i still could catch a couple IOI's, but nothing compared to before. it bugged me for the rest of the trip because i didnt know what i did wrong. right now i am thinking too much ****y when using C+F, but im still not sure. thats why im posting this, does anyone have an idea of what might have happened?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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DOnt think u will always be visible! I men shy probably trying to play u too! She ignores u! and u should ignore em too! And get a gf! With gf u will leanr much more!
 

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thanks, i guess. "I men shy probably trying to play u too!" - im not quite sure what you mean by that, but ok. the reason i dont want to be in a relationship right now, is b/c i dont want to grab the first thing i get, and i dont want to hurt the girl by breaking up with her when i find someone better.
 

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I'm pretty sure that the "I men shy probably trying to play u too!" comment was supposed to read "I mean she's probably trying to play you too!".
 

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Mr. Rogers is corect, what i meant to say was She is playing u too.. Sorry for bad spelling. I was really in a rush, and had to write really fast:woo: !
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Mr_rogers

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Really, I think Shydude nailed it on the head. She realized how much she was liking you, and decided to start playing the game right back. You probably should have started to play even harder, ignoring her and that kind of thing, but... Hindsight is 20/20. Much easier to say on the outside, looking back at the situation then it is being there, in the moment.

EDIT: The only thing I don't agree with Shydude on is getting a gf. If you aren't ready for one, then you really shouldn't get one. It'll make things unnecessarily uncomfortable for you, so I'd hang tight until you felt a little more at ease on that particular front.
 

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Well i said getting a gf to learn the techniques u cant learn without having one. See when u have a gf u enter the relationship level. And having a gf is really fun..
 

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shydude said:
Well i said getting a gf to learn the techniques u cant learn without having one. See when u have a gf u enter the relationship level. And having a gf is really fun..
Truth in this, but remember, if he isn't comfortable with having a girlfriend yet, than it's really unlikely that he'll be able to learn much, because he'll be in a situation he really isn't ready for, or desire.

Yeah, having a girlfriend is fun, but only if you're ready for that level of committment and stuff, even at a very younge age. Who knows? He could just be really shy. We don't know, really.
 

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thanks guys. i tried ignoring her and being w/ other chick, and she showed some IOI's when i did this, but i have just decided to next her... i am undecided on the GF offers tho...
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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wow I'm impressed its been a while ...actually never ..I've never seen a first time poster that actually read the DJ bible, studied it, and applied it before posting. So many people read and don't apply. You did really well the first time and thats really good. It took me a lot of trial and error when I first started off

keep up the good work
 
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