"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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hey all... long time lurker, first time poster.

first of all, i would just like to say "wow". i have been studying much on this site for the past month, and about a week and a half ago i finally decided to put it into practice. my school went on a trip to california (im from NJ, so i got to fly there:up: ), and i used all the DJ skills i have learned. i noticed MOST of the girls on the trip gave me at least some IOIs when i started w/ my game, and that really boosted my confidence. several were starting to get really into me, but i backed off as they already had boyfriends, and i didnt want to start stealing chicks. a couple girls actually openly wanted to be my girlfriend, and were all over me for a majority of the trip and i just tried to play it smooth. i dont really want a girlfriend right now, as i want to work on improving my "game", so i didnt try to lead them on that much.

anyway, on to my dillema. at the beggining of the trip, i was really working on a girl that im interested in. it was going great, TONS of IOI's -eye contact, ADVANCED KINO, etc. all of the sudden, on about the third day, it just stopped. she didnt pay much attention to me, started hanging out with different people and so on. i still could catch a couple IOI's, but nothing compared to before. it bugged me for the rest of the trip because i didnt know what i did wrong. right now i am thinking too much ****y when using C+F, but im still not sure. thats why im posting this, does anyone have an idea of what might have happened?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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DOnt think u will always be visible! I men shy probably trying to play u too! She ignores u! and u should ignore em too! And get a gf! With gf u will leanr much more!
 
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thanks, i guess. "I men shy probably trying to play u too!" - im not quite sure what you mean by that, but ok. the reason i dont want to be in a relationship right now, is b/c i dont want to grab the first thing i get, and i dont want to hurt the girl by breaking up with her when i find someone better.
 
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I'm pretty sure that the "I men shy probably trying to play u too!" comment was supposed to read "I mean she's probably trying to play you too!".
 
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Mr. Rogers is corect, what i meant to say was She is playing u too.. Sorry for bad spelling. I was really in a rush, and had to write really fast:woo: !
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Really, I think Shydude nailed it on the head. She realized how much she was liking you, and decided to start playing the game right back. You probably should have started to play even harder, ignoring her and that kind of thing, but... Hindsight is 20/20. Much easier to say on the outside, looking back at the situation then it is being there, in the moment.

EDIT: The only thing I don't agree with Shydude on is getting a gf. If you aren't ready for one, then you really shouldn't get one. It'll make things unnecessarily uncomfortable for you, so I'd hang tight until you felt a little more at ease on that particular front.
 
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Well i said getting a gf to learn the techniques u cant learn without having one. See when u have a gf u enter the relationship level. And having a gf is really fun..
 
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shydude said:
Well i said getting a gf to learn the techniques u cant learn without having one. See when u have a gf u enter the relationship level. And having a gf is really fun..
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Truth in this, but remember, if he isn't comfortable with having a girlfriend yet, than it's really unlikely that he'll be able to learn much, because he'll be in a situation he really isn't ready for, or desire.

Yeah, having a girlfriend is fun, but only if you're ready for that level of committment and stuff, even at a very younge age. Who knows? He could just be really shy. We don't know, really.
 
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thanks guys. i tried ignoring her and being w/ other chick, and she showed some IOI's when i did this, but i have just decided to next her... i am undecided on the GF offers tho...
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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wow I'm impressed its been a while ...actually never ..I've never seen a first time poster that actually read the DJ bible, studied it, and applied it before posting. So many people read and don't apply. You did really well the first time and thats really good. It took me a lot of trial and error when I first started off

keep up the good work
 
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