"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Diaforetikos said:
Your in the bag. Fvck this up, and officially call yourself a b!tch.

Escalate your a$$ off. Think and breathe sexual. This isn't a second date. This is an easy lay. Get your work done and report back here as soon as possible. And take risks. If you mess up becasue you took some chances, then it's ok if you mess up.

Good luck mate!!
Well yeah your right, if i can't do anything tonight then i'm going to start at the very beginning on how to get women again, go through the basics etc lol
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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PLOW through the resistance. Tell her "I'll MAKE you get over him." There is a difference between moving on when its obvious she has no interest, and plowing through resistance to see if you can swing her to your side. People here are a little too quick to next chicks. You'll never get laid if you dont at least try to break down her walls. At least get your three dates, before you blow her off.
 

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horaholic said:
PLOW through the resistance. Tell her "I'll MAKE you get over him." There is a difference between moving on when its obvious she has no interest, and plowing through resistance to see if you can swing her to your side. People here are a little too quick to next chicks. You'll never get laid if you dont at least try to break down her walls. At least get your three dates, before you blow her off.
Went out for a drink, then back to hers till like 3am .. talking, kissing ... i was given the chance to stay but did'nt ... not on the 2nd date lol ... so all is well, 3rd date we see a film.
 

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Demonicale said:
Usually i would agree with you 100% ... i mean i'm not new to the game and have heard all the **** that women come out with ...

But why i decided to give her another chance is she said "i was a *****", "i just freaked" and "I DO really like you and i'll explain" ... plus she's constantly txting me ...

What i'm gonna do is go on the date and not expect anything, but i ain't gonna just sit there like a ****ing clown this time ... i'm gonna come out with some stupid **** like "I've been wanting to do this since the first date" then go for the kiss ... lol

But if she ****s me around this time it's OVER.

Whatcha think guys?



Earlier you said your not new to the game, but with statements like the one above its obvious you haven't learned how to perfect your game to attract women.

You need to take control and run the show as the man, at this point she's in control and your her puppy dog.





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Pimp-sicle said:
Earlier you said your not new to the game, but with statements like the one above its obvious you haven't learned how to perfect your game to attract women.

You need to take control and run the show as the man, at this point she's in control and your her puppy dog.





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I disagree with you, you see ... this is diffrent for me ... if it was a one night stand or some new **** buddy i'd never say that ...

I guess it may have come across as insecure but it's only because i don't want to **** it up so i've kinda made it clear to her i'm not just after her for sex.

USUALLY i know i would never say this **** ... but USUALLY i don't try to BE with women, i try to **** em and dump em lol ... hope that makes some sense.

But yes, i won't be saying stupid **** like that anymore! :crackup:
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Demonicale said:
I disagree with you, you see ... this is diffrent for me ... if it was a one night stand or some new **** buddy i'd never say that ...

I guess it may have come across as insecure but it's only because i don't want to **** it up so i've kinda made it clear to her i'm not just after her for sex.

USUALLY i know i would never say this **** ... but USUALLY i don't try to BE with women, i try to **** em and dump em lol ... hope that makes some sense.

But yes, i won't be saying stupid **** like that anymore! :crackup:


This is most likely why you run into these situations in the first place.

Your making the classic rookie mistake of putting this girl on a pedestal because you have already determined she is relationship material when you have only went out on one date!!! :rolleyes:

Furthermore you think that you need to VERBALLY show her that she's special and not just some chick you want to bang, but any solid DJ knows that the key to seducing a woman, escalating interest level and closing is to SHOW her rather than tell her.

Honestly I think your putting this chick on wayyyy to high of a pedestal without really knowing much about her. Secondly you held hands with her on the first date, which is a great way to scare her away since your acting like your in a relationship already. Slow down, relax, enjoy the moment rather than worrying about the future. But just don't forget that you are a man and its GOOD for you to express your sexual desire in a suave way.





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Pimp-sicle said:
This is most likely why you run into these situations in the first place.

Your making the classic rookie mistake of putting this girl on a pedestal because you have already determined she is relationship material when you have only went out on one date!!! :rolleyes:

Furthermore you think that you need to VERBALLY show her that she's special and not just some chick you want to bang, but any solid DJ knows that the key to seducing a woman, escalating interest level and closing is to SHOW her rather than tell her.

Honestly I think your putting this chick on wayyyy to high of a pedestal without really knowing much about her. Secondly you held hands with her on the first date, which is a great way to scare her away since your acting like your in a relationship already. Slow down, relax, enjoy the moment rather than worrying about the future. But just don't forget that you are a man and its GOOD for you to express your sexual desire in a suave way.





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Ok good advice, although seeing how i held her hands from the start ... it was cold and just felt alil weird to be walking to a romantic spot and not make an effort to hold hands ... i'll have to carry that on...

She told me that she want a few more times out with me before i can say i'm her boyfriend as she's afraid she'll jinx it and i'll run off.

But yeah i get what you say, i have 2 day's to work my **** out and stop acting like a ***** ... but apparently she likes gentlemen :(
 

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I guess it may have come across as insecure but it's only because i don't want to **** it up so i've kinda made it clear to her i'm not just after her for sex.
Stop walking on eggshells!

I dunno about you but everytime i tried not to fcuk things up with a girl, i always ended dissapointed but whenever i really didn't care about the outcome; i've always ended up with a stalker on my hands lol. I guess what im trying to say is: don't focus on the outcome but rather focus on just having fun.

One other thing, i dunno what you think you are doing think by making it clear you are not only after sex. Do you think that she's gonna like you more just because you are being genuine? Who says she even wants a relationship with you? You don't even know her that well but you are already angling for a relationship. She might not even be relationship material? i'm just saying...
 
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Demonicale said:
Ok good advice, although seeing how i held her hands from the start ... it was cold and just felt alil weird to be walking to a romantic spot and not make an effort to hold hands ... i'll have to carry that on...

She told me that she want a few more times out with me before i can say i'm her boyfriend as she's afraid she'll jinx it and i'll run off.

But yeah i get what you say, i have 2 day's to work my **** out and stop acting like a ***** ... but apparently she likes gentlemen :(
A few more times? A girl might date me for 5 or 6 months before I call myself her "boyfriend". That's no internet exaggeration either.

You gotta get this "relationship" stuff out of your head. Hand-holding. Being "too sexual". The purpose of this date is to see if YOU want to include her in YOUR life. You're already talking about being her boyfriend after the first date....that'd be cute if you were my 12 year old sister. But you're a grown man. Women have to earn that place in your world.
 

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Demonicale said:
Went out for a drink, then back to hers till like 3am .. talking, kissing ... i was given the chance to stay but did'nt ... not on the 2nd date lol ... so all is well, 3rd date we see a film.
Demonicale said:
USUALLY i know i would never say this **** ... but USUALLY i don't try to BE with women, i try to **** em and dump em lol ... hope that makes some sense.
Which one is it?

Talking, kissing... and that was it?
You are very adamant of reminding everyone that it's only a second date... why? If you are all about Fvck and Dump, then what does it matter to you which number it is?

BECAUSEEEEEEEEEEEEEE you are thinking of her as an LTR.

Fess up, you know you are.

And that's where all the real danger lies.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Demonicale said:
i was given the chance to stay but did'nt ... not on the 2nd date lol ....
Are you a man or a woman? Not on the 2nd date???? Gayest thing I've heard in months.
 

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I just hope she doesn't friendzone him soon. If a woman takes you to her place to be alone with her she has fudging on her mind!
Yep...I just can't imagine refusing an offer to stay over at a girls place if I was at all interested. Have to strike while the pvssy is HOT.

This could be game over soon if he isn't careful. This could actually make her want him more short term, but he for sure needs to tap tap tap next time.

And no more statements like I couldn't stay over because it was only the 2nd date. Wow.
 

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Yep...I just can't imagine refusing an offer to stay over at a girls place if I was at all interested. Have to strike while the pvssy is HOT.

This could be game over soon if he isn't careful. This could actually make her want him more short term, but he for sure needs to tap tap tap next time.

And no more statements like I couldn't stay over because it was only the 2nd date. Wow.
Seriously.

If he told us that he couldn't stay because he had to take a monster dump, that's one thing. Not staying simply because it's the second date? Sh**, the girl didn't mind it being the 2nd date, why should he?
 

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Alright guy's .. a few of those replies made me laugh ... because their sooo damm true!.

I swear this is a whole new side to me and i don't like it, i never EVER act like this normally!,I think i AM thinking of a LTR that maybe bringing out the ***** in me.

Also the whole 2nd date thing, well before i went on the 2nd date i kinda browsed some stuff on this website and might've listened to someone saying it's baaaad to do that kinda thing on a 2nd date.

Ok, well ... she has'nt befriended me ... if she did i would'nt be surprized.

But my game is kinda ****ed up at the moment, i play the teasing and annoying game with her and speak my mind etc ... and am confident that way, but then i say stupid things like what i've put in here.

Ok so the advice i'm going to take with me for tomorrow night is to stop worrying and being a **** ... but to have fun and see where it goes with no expectations!.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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