ok so there is this woman who works at a store around here...i poped in for about 3-4 mins last week just about everyday just to try to get to know her a little and build a little rapor i guess. so i could see she was interester, plenty of eye contact, waving, smiling. So today i went in there and talked to her, asked about 2 questions then asked for her number - she said she had a boyfriend (now im not too sure because i asked one of the other store clerks last week if this woman had a BF and they said no so). but so she said she had a bf, i said "SO, we can still hangout, get to know eachother".. then she gave me her number, i told her i had to go...and so.. do you think she may have been lying about the bf or?. also where should i go from here, best to ask for a casual date (i.e. bowling, coffee, lunch) or..any ideas? thanks
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
GOT the number but...
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
jakethasnake
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Simple. Call her, arrange to go on a date. If you do end up meeting her, have a nice time, try to create a sexual state in her, then attempt to kiss her at the end of the night. Don't play that "Friend game" - lay it all on the line. If she rebuffs and says she has a man, then just let her loose and start over. Try not to think too much man.
Do not do the above. Do not ask her out on a date. Depending on how old you are ask her to join you for cofee or something. Tell her you have the coolest thing back at your apartment but she has to promise not to laught at it. Now her curiosity will come into play and shell be agreeing not to laught at it and at the same time to go over to your place where you can **** her.
lol .... I think these guys are trying to get you laid 
Which is not a bad idea, except the fact she has a so called "boyfriend". If she truely has a boyfriend she wont let it proceed that far.
My thing is if she has a boyfriend or tells you she does... bro she dont want you like that. All that flirting just means she thinks your kinda cute.
Call her and conversate with her on the phone. After the first conversation you should know if she has a "real" boyfriend and how much she wants to be with him because thats all she will be talking about.
Which is not a bad idea, except the fact she has a so called "boyfriend". If she truely has a boyfriend she wont let it proceed that far. My thing is if she has a boyfriend or tells you she does... bro she dont want you like that. All that flirting just means she thinks your kinda cute.
Call her and conversate with her on the phone. After the first conversation you should know if she has a "real" boyfriend and how much she wants to be with him because thats all she will be talking about.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
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When girls won't give you their number, they don't want to hang out with you at all. She might be interested in hanging out but as a friend because...
When girls tell you they have a boyfriend, she doesn't want to be romantically involved with you.
When girls tell you they have a boyfriend, she doesn't want to be romantically involved with you.