"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Got massively rejected, it was epic

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So there's a pretty French girl in one of my classes. Usually she sits on the other side of the room, but last time I was eying her and this time I notice she sits very nearby. Over the course of the class, a couple sideways glances. Then, after class is out and 2/3 of people leave, she is just sitting there playing with her phone (texting, presumably).

So I go up which I had not planned to do. I say, "I really liked your presentation last class." She looks up- pretty but pure ice in her eyes. "Really?" she asked. Then I kinda looked to the side and thought "I don't give a ****" and then asked "How would you like to have lunch sometime." She grinned, then she looked up into my eyes for a full second before saying, flatly, "No."

I kind of laughed and said, "Are you sure? Come on. It would be fun." No response. "Are you sure?" I asked, taking a couple steps back.

She said, smiling, "I'm not interested."

So I left.

But afterwards it felt awesome. I actually wish I had done this sooner. That was a harsh rejection and it tells me I need to step my game up. She was beautiful and she turned me down multiple times smiling and politely rejecting in the most humiliating way (no boyfriend, no reason- she just wasn’t interested).

But it felt EPIC that I actually was made of stronger stuff than I thought. Being indifferent to rejection is a powerful, powerful thing.

Anyway...that's what I did today.

Btw I tried the same thing last night with another foreign girl and it worked for a date, so it's not like I'm a goblin or anything. I just wasn't her cup of tea at that moment.

But in my defense I think French Girl could have lightened up a little bit; she kind of missed the fact that I knew I was rejected and I was just trying to joke around with her.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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you talked about launch too early , try next time just to talk in general conversation , if she is friendly then move on the launch topic or leave her
bty ,next time you find her dont talk with her and ignore her she knew what happen so you should show her you have pride .
 

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Darth said:
So there's a pretty French girl in one of my classes. Usually she sits on the other side of the room, but last time I was eying her and this time I notice she sits very nearby. Over the course of the class, a couple sideways glances. Then, after class is out and 2/3 of people leave, she is just sitting there playing with her phone (texting, presumably).

So I go up which I had not planned to do. I say, "I really liked your presentation last class." She looks up- pretty but pure ice in her eyes. "Really?" she asked. Then I kinda looked to the side and thought "I don't give a ****" and then asked "How would you like to have lunch sometime." She grinned, then she looked up into my eyes for a full second before saying, flatly, "No."

I kind of laughed and said, "Are you sure? Come on. It would be fun." No response. "Are you sure?" I asked, taking a couple steps back.

She said, smiling, "I'm not interested."

So I left.

But afterwards it felt awesome. I actually wish I had done this sooner. That was a harsh rejection and it tells me I need to step my game up. She was beautiful and she turned me down multiple times smiling and politely rejecting in the most humiliating way (no boyfriend, no reason- she just wasn’t interested).

But it felt EPIC that I actually was made of stronger stuff than I thought. Being indifferent to rejection is a powerful, powerful thing.

Anyway...that's what I did today.

Btw I tried the same thing last night with another foreign girl and it worked for a date, so it's not like I'm a goblin or anything. I just wasn't her cup of tea at that moment.

But in my defense I think French Girl could have lightened up a little bit; she kind of missed the fact that I knew I was rejected and I was just trying to joke around with her.
may seem harsh, but you got a solid NO not some trash to drag you in as an orbiter.
Not interested, fine, pat on the back for trying.:up:
a few more of these and you'll have solid enough balls to not have to cry about it. NOBODY gets every girl, and MOST WONT EVEN APPROACH you did though, so just suck it up and move on.

She might not even be single. and she's definitely not interested.:D
 

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did you even know the girls name? did you make any type of introduction? Just straight up asked her "wanna go to lunch?" Step your game up for real
 

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Good job man. I like girls like her. You gotta respect that she'll just flat out say no to you. I didn't think that was in the female vocabulary. Do it again soon each time refining your game.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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omega05 said:
did you even know the girls name? did you make any type of introduction? Just straight up asked her "wanna go to lunch?" Step your game up for real
Exactly.

Props for trying but you guys can't go from 0 to 60 in 5 seconds. This is real life, it takes time, hard work, effort. You have to give her a reason to go out with you. Just because you think she looks hot isn't a good one for her.
 

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SoSuave666 said:
I've had WAYYYYYYY worse. But good for you going out there and at least TRYING...how many other dudes in your class have done that? Probably not many. How many would want to fvck her? Probably all...

One time I went to a bar with a buddy of mine. We were walking around, shooting the sh!t, and I was getting bored so eventually I was like: "dude, check out these babes over there (two set...both 7s). Let's go talk to them, I guarantee we pull." He said, "OK but if we don't get digits you buy the next round. If we do I'll buy for all 4." In my head I was like psssshhhhh yea right these 7s are easy money and he will buy drinks for all of us so I won't be the pvssy.

So we walk up and I open: "Evenin' ladies, how's the night?" They took one look at us and turned around and walked away. No words...nothing. I was dumbfounded...this had NEVER happened to me before. Ever. I stood there for a second, then proceeded to walk to the bar and order two shots of Jack.
Ouch, that's harsh. I've been rejected pretty bad a few times, but at least they had the common courtesy to tell me to fvck off. Lol.

-Scars
 

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Since we're now telling harsh rejection stories:

Went to this pretentious lounge in Hollywood (redundant I know) and my boy wanted to approach these Eastern European-looking chicks. Not my cup of tea but I winged for him. I go up to my target and say something (forget what) and she goes, with the iciest stare ever "you're in my space."

I was so taken aback I couldn't think of a good comeback but luckily I stayed indifferent and said something like "it's my space too."

Now I'd probably just stare at her and burst out laughing.
 

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for the record she seems like a real biatch
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Darth said:
...and then asked "How would you like to have lunch sometime." She grinned, then she looked up into my eyes for a full second before saying, flatly, "No."
This, boys and girls, is a Good Girl (or at the very least, not a Wrong Woman. She declines an outing with someone she's not [sexually] interested in, instead of using him for a free lunch and potential Orbiter. Very good in my book:

"And this is where your dad is incorrect (no offense). Back in his and my parents' day, women wouldn't waste your time if they weren't interested. They were taught that this is wrong because you're wasting a guy's time and just giving him false hope. Unfortunately in this day, that's no longer the case."

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showpost.php?p=1888094&postcount=2


I kind of laughed and said, "Are you sure? Come on. It would be fun." No response. "Are you sure?" I asked, taking a couple steps back.

She said, smiling, "I'm not interested."

So I left.
Ideally, you should've said "Cool, no prob. See ya." after the first "No" but hey, you're way ahead of the Game when compared to most guys. Keep it in mind for next time.

But it felt EPIC that I actually was made of stronger stuff than I thought. Being indifferent to rejection is a powerful, powerful thing.
^^^ this. +1

Enlightened Men embrace Rejection. They learn from it.

Keep closing. Eventually, some will play. ;)

P.S. Name-close and ask out the ones who smile back. Talk to many people and improve your wit and conversational skills.
 

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This example is a good one for pointing out how important it is to read the girl. Her initial response told you all that you needed to know about her interest in you. I'm sure that you felt her icy look, but you thought "what the hell, I might as well ask since I'm talking to her anyway, even though she seems 99.999% uninterested."

When you get good at reading a girl, you can tell from the first few words if she is interested. Hell, sometimes you can tell without saying a word.
 

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Thanks guys, I have learned so much from this. I won't make the same mistakes again.

Off to get rejected in completely different ways now:)
 

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TillTheEndOfTime said:
I'm sure that you felt her icy look, but you thought "what the hell, I might as well ask since I'm talking to her anyway, even though she seems 99.999% uninterested."
I was thinking I might as well.
 

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vatoloco said:
This, boys and girls, is a Good Girl (or at the very least, not a Wrong Woman. She declines an outing with someone she's not [sexually] interested in, instead of using him for a free lunch and potential Orbiter. Very good in my book
That is what made it so rough; she rejected me in a way that matched my own values and made me like her more. Pure class. Oh well.

Edit: If she had been rude about it it wouldn't have been bad at all because then it would be obvious it was her problem and not me. But this was tough love. I've got some stuff to work on.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Ha! I'm taking a dance class now, and as a leader, the best followers are the girls that TELL me when I'm not doing something right...they can't always diagnose it, but they know when it feels wrong. It's great.

Got me thinking...what if women started critiquing our game for us?

"Would you like to get lunch sometime?"

"No, I'm not interested. By the way, in the future you should go for some eye contact first, then use a situational opener. Might have better luck with the next girl."
 

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Keep this in mind: many guys will focus on a witty remark to say if they get rejected. It is better to use wit before you get rejected -- it could well be the reason she finds herself interested. A cold "let's have lunch" is nothing compared to a conversation that makes her laugh and *feel* curious about you.
 

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Good that you are approaching OP, but from my experience, asking girl out without a rapport will almost always result with a NO. You should've talked with her a bit, and at the end, if she'd seem interested ask her for a lunch someday. If she wouldn't seem interested and responsive to your conversation you should just say "Nice talking to you, bye."
 
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Friend of mine studied abroad a few times -- he said that European women were far more forward when then weren't into you. (As in: you walk up to them on the dance floor, and you get a "shoo" hand gesture.)

I'm fine with getting rejected. What I need to get used to is getting rejected in front of people...
 

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omega05 said:
did you even know the girls name? did you make any type of introduction? Just straight up asked her "wanna go to lunch?" Step your game up for real

I think that's what he's trying to do, and the guys making a REAL LIFE effort to talk to girls, not just sittin here reading tip after tip. Can't expect him to go from learning to crawl to running a marathon over night. So, great job dude! Next time she says no just bail don't pester her further. If the girl ever says anything like, "I have a bf"; "no"; "give me your number I don't give mine out", if you do anything other than immediately bail youre wasting your time and placing her value above yours
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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