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I'm planning to pursue a job opportunity that is an salaried job for the first time since the early 00s. I'm not sure if I can handle the idea of showing up to work at a certain time, clocking in and out and all of that jazz. I'm not used to being monitored like that, but I understand this is what lots of people tend to do. Self-employment has not worked that well with me with too much income fluctuation and rising debt.

There is a work ethic in here and while I'm trying to get Unemployment Benefits and Social Assistance, and know I can get three weeks worth of work paid by Unemployment Insurance compared to having to work for four weeks to earn slightly more than I would get for free by the government (ie if that's approved).
My mother didn't like the idea of me bumming around and collecting EI (ie was laid off from a previous job and just wanted the EI).

It's likely if I didn't pursue social benefits I wouldn't feel as pressured to work, but it just feels wrong to refuse any decent job prospect, even if it's not an ideal or dream job. I mean you can still send out resumes while you are working (on the off time of course, and from home). Maybe I'll meet some women there. Definitely want to get away from this home as there are issues here too and it's a great escape from staying at home with my folks most of the time. They want me to go too.

How was your first 9-5 or salaried job like? Did you feel like monitored, or like Big Brother was watching you but in a corporate sort of way?
 

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Updating this thread. This is now the near second month that I have been working at this job, the shift is between 2-10pm.

Other feedback from other people close to me have mentioned that the worst thing about a full-time job is getting out of the house and getting to work on time. People longing for breaks and waiting for the whole day to end to come back home!

The full-time experience so far is demanding since you have to be on time for the job, and there is some level of accountability to performance. However, I've been doing quite well at this job and it seems like I'm having a somewhat of a decent time working there. The rapport with management is great and I'm making quite a volume of sales. The only challenge that I can see, as inherent in any call center job, is that it does take a bit of mental energy and having a commanding and articulate voice to feel a sense of control. People can only judge you by your voice. They don't see how you look like. If they don't like what they hear, then it won't be effective.

However, giving the great job compatibility and results, and ability to keep to the schedule and seeing a good structure within my life.

Staying away from my folks, I think is helpful in the dyamics at home. My mother is no longer "larger than life" as far as the day to day is concerned and we generally miss each other when I'm away at work. This makes me more independent and gives me a sense that I'm good at something out there and can hold a job. I've also lost a substanital amount of weight since I've started working and probably lost near 15-20 lbs from peak weight just late August/early September.
 
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Great job man. Your getting into the salaried world and im trying to escape it. I am done with having a boss. I want to open my own business but I am unsure what kinda business to open. I can conform that you being out of the house for hours a day is great for your relationship with your parents. I think a huge problem with why I broke up with my ex is cause I wasnt working and I was around the house too much. Anyways keep it up and I am proud of you.
 

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Great job man. Your getting into the salaried world and im trying to escape it. I am done with having a boss. I want to open my own business but I am unsure what kinda business to open. I can conform that you being out of the house for hours a day is great for your relationship with your parents. I think a huge problem with why I broke up with my ex is cause I wasnt working and I was around the house too much. Anyways keep it up and I am proud of you.
Thanks. I'm running away from self-employment/business world since there is allot of stress involved when your pay is tied to other people and circumstnaces. Plus you don't get benefits if things don't work out. So, it looks like we are running in opposite directions!

I neglected to mention that, as well, I do go on a Virtual Reality trip after three full days of work (ie I'll put a VR-headset on in the morning of the fourth day and travel to a nice place somewhere). This past Thursday, I visited some Infinity Pool in Thialand overlooking the sea with a small island, as well as visiting parts of Australia (ie the Sydney Harbour area, Chinatown, as well as some nice cliffs overlooking the ocean, and St. Petersburg Russia. This helps me process Thursdays and Fridays before the weekend! I think the wear-and-tear definitely shows near the end of a shift, and near the end of the week and a nice vacation is helpful to punctuate between the 3rd, and 4th day of work.

Other Virutal Reality places I visited while working included the Highlands in Scotland, Domenican Republic, parts of Spain, this nice beach along Cuba called Varadero and I think when viewed properly, this provides a nice relief within the construct of the work-week. You bring the vacation to you for 15 min rather than actually go on one!

There is a lovely train ride to get to the office and back. The trip is so nice that if the job was at another location that was away from the train station, then we would have some issues. I also have a playlist of pep music videos if I'm not making any sales, a playlist of celebratory music videos when I'm making a number of sales. The ability to create these structures all over the place is also a nice aspect of having a job.
 

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Thanks. I'm running away from self-employment/business world since there is allot of stress involved when your pay is tied to other people and circumstnaces. Plus you don't get benefits if things don't work out. So, it looks like we are running in opposite directions!

I neglected to mention that, as well, I do go on a Virtual Reality trip after three full days of work (ie I'll put a VR-headset on in the morning of the fourth day and travel to a nice place somewhere). This past Thursday, I visited some Infinity Pool in Thialand overlooking the sea with a small island, as well as visiting parts of Australia (ie the Sydney Harbour area, Chinatown, as well as some nice cliffs overlooking the ocean, and St. Petersburg Russia. This helps me process Thursdays and Fridays before the weekend! I think the wear-and-tear definitely shows near the end of a shift, and near the end of the week and a nice vacation is helpful to punctuate between the 3rd, and 4th day of work.

Other Virutal Reality places I visited while working included the Highlands in Scotland, Domenican Republic, parts of Spain, this nice beach along Cuba called Varadero and I think when viewed properly, this provides a nice relief within the construct of the work-week. You bring the vacation to you for 15 min rather than actually go on one!

There is a lovely train ride to get to the office and back. The trip is so nice that if the job was at another location that was away from the train station, then we would have some issues. I also have a playlist of pep music videos if I'm not making any sales, a playlist of celebratory music videos when I'm making a number of sales. The ability to create these structures all over the place is also a nice aspect of having a job.
 

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Yeah im thinking the grass is greener by owning my own business. You bring up some points that I didnt even consider. Virtual reality is awesome. Imagine what it is gonna be like in many years from now. I feel we have only scratched the beginning of it. Have you tried Oculus? The first time I tried it I was amazed.
 

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Yeah im thinking the grass is greener by owning my own business. You bring up some points that I didnt even consider. Virtual reality is awesome. Imagine what it is gonna be like in many years from now. I feel we have only scratched the beginning of it. Have you tried Oculus? The first time I tried it I was amazed.
They changed the name of Oculus to Meta. I've owned Meta Quest 2 since 2021 when I had a hard time with the first self-employment experience with insurance where I was kept on an insane limbo on training that I was fed up enough to purchase this device. I now use it for practical escapist reasons for the moment, and in the past I used to watch movies on it (and might still do if I have some time).

Most people use this thing mainly for games, but I use it for self-therapy and I'm very surgical and focused whenever I do use it.
 

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Interesting the responses to this thread, someone that frequently starts it and someone that replies
 

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I am suffering a state of excessive teasing. There are a barrage of youtube videos, reddit threads and things online that suggests that working for a company makes you a wage slave since you are burning most of your waking hours working for a company and then when you retire, you are too old and tired to enjoy life, assuming you make a pension enough to support yourself.

I even find myself inadvertently calling myself a wage-slave. I don't get what is the psychological pushback going on recently. I'm not unhappy with the job I'm doing so why all of this self-mockery going on. What is wrong with me?

I just hope I don't end up watching those youtube videos on my work break. The titles are a bit much.
 

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I am suffering a state of excessive teasing. There are a barrage of youtube videos, reddit threads and things online that suggests that working for a company makes you a wage slave since you are burning most of your waking hours working for a company and then when you retire, you are too old and tired to enjoy life, assuming you make a pension enough to support yourself.
Don't listen to that garbage. Congratulations on working, earning your own money, and being productive. I know the manosphere seems to want to tell everyone that they have to either be an entrepreneur or a street bum, but they are full of BS. There are advantages to being a salaried employee. For example, someone else is taking the risk - not all businesses are successful. Besides, it sounds like you tried that route already, it isn't for everybody.

Congratulations on having a work ethic. That other stuff is for Gen Z losers. As it says in Thessalonians, "If you don't work, you don't eat". That's the Biblical way, which I am bringing up since I know you are a Christian.
 

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Hi Corrector,
I was very successful in my working life the engine that drove that success was a steady earner,coincidentally also working from 2PM to 10PM in a College...Wasn't all work and no play,as I used often go with my Students to a local Nightclub where I would Boogie the night away...Happiest Days of my life!
 

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I even find myself inadvertently calling myself a wage-slave. I don't get what is the psychological pushback going on recently. I'm not unhappy with the job I'm doing so why all of this self-mockery going on. What is wrong with me?
You're only a slave to the wage if you cannot quit the job and get another one.

I'm a writer. I get royalties, but it's hardly enough. So I have several sources of income. If one drops off, I can lean on the other sources until I find a new source of income.

Having a steady pay check at the bottom so you don't have to take jobs that you loathe just to pay the rent/mortgage. If your basic income is steady, you can exploit other sources of income. If these sources pan out, you can turn the full-time job into a part-time job and work on having more sources so you don't have all your eggs in one basket.
 

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Don't listen to that garbage. Congratulations on working, earning your own money, and being productive. I know the manosphere seems to want to tell everyone that they have to either be an entrepreneur or a street bum, but they are full of BS. There are advantages to being a salaried employee. For example, someone else is taking the risk - not all businesses are successful. Besides, it sounds like you tried that route already, it isn't for everybody.

Congratulations on having a work ethic. That other stuff is for Gen Z losers. As it says in Thessalonians, "If you don't work, you don't eat". That's the Biblical way, which I am bringing up since I know you are a Christian.
Well said.
 
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