"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Because I work 80-100+ hours a week I don't get out very much. I chatted up this girl at a bar that I was mildly attracted to we did some shots and I did something out of character, I straight up asked for her number.

We met up for drinks and had a lot of fun. I put zero effort into planning this and we just sat at the bar for 2 hours talking and laughing, both getting past the touch barrier and kissing. Both texted each other the next day saying we had fun and should meet up again and that we actually had a lot in common.

Bout 4 days later I try to set up a second date and her response was she wanted to be honest and only got a "friend vibe" between us and would def. hang out again as long as I'm ok with that. I'm not even upset but I want know how do you respond? total silence? I was thinking that "while I do respect her honestly thats not really why I asked for your #"

???
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Eventhough she said the friend vibe, I'm still going to tell you to pump n dump. So what if you get friendzoned? It's only important to pump n dump. Either that or drop her with no contact. NC man NC.
 

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You say nothing for now. Let her contact you. Ball's in her court. In the event you hang with her again, proceed as if she said nothing about the friend zone. If she stops you once again, stick a fork in it and next her, nothing much you can do.
 

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EveryPostHere said:
Eventhough she said the friend vibe, I'm still going to tell you to pump n dump. So what if you get friendzoned? It's only important to pump n dump. Either that or drop her with no contact. NC man NC.
Da hell? Uhh.....didn't you read the Op's post?

How is he supposed to "pump and dump" her when SHE SAID she didn't feel any chemistry/attraction from their ONE AND ONLY meeting so far?

She was open.....was honest......and was STRAIGHT UP with the OP,not leading him on,flaking,or playing games.

She was up for going out and seeing if the two of them clicked on a romantic level.....they went out and she only felt a "friendly" vibe...and SAID SO.


She flat out said she didn't feel any sexual attraction,so how's he supposed to have sex with her? Doesn't make any sense,dude. :confused:


OP......let her go. You want sexual interest,she said she's only up for being friends,so let it go. She was straight with you,so YOU BE straight with her. I'd just tell her I'm kinda looking for a bit more than friendship,thank her for being honest,wish her well,then go on to the next girl.

Personally,I wish ALL WOMEN were just like her.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Yeah I'm impressed by her to be honest, 99.9% of women want no part of that confrontation so they'd just flake or go ghost on you.

But yeah, I would be straight up with her right back. Just say you're not interested in friendship and say "if you change your mind, you know how to reach me" or something to that effect.

I don't think ignoring her after she texted you that is going to do anything anyway.
 

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Stay back & don't msg her till she does then be upfront ...I want more than friendship , she says not then drop her simple. Take a walk outside right now & you will find 20 of her type within an hour.
 

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Nah. I have gotten this responce from two woman after the number close and first interaction. Both I hooked up with afterwards. One ended up FZ me anyway after sleeping at my house and showing me her tits and snuggling all night(my fault I am sure) the other, is my Train Girl. Who also I have been out with on 5 dates since and got her naked at my house and bombed again.

Should you not have these sex closing issues like I do heres what you do.

Text her back this:

O good. I was kinda worried about that vibe myself. Now that we cleared that up. We are both a good time so lets have a good time. Ill return the engagement ring and we can spend the money on booze and gambling.
 

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Play it cool and just say "okay, no worries". Then go dark, if she changes her mind she'll get in touch with you. After not hearing from you for a bit, she just might. She was honest with you so just accept it and next.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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salinechow said:
O good.
I was kinda worried about that vibe myself. Now that we cleared that up. We are both a good time so lets have a good time.
Ill return the engagement ring and we can spend the money on booze and gambling.
The parts in bold would make a great response IMO. The stuff inbetween is extraneous and doesn't really make sense though (you also felt the friend vibe, but still got an engagement ring?)
 

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Igetit! said:
Da hell? Uhh.....didn't you read the Op's post?

How is he supposed to "pump and dump" her when SHE SAID she didn't feel any chemistry/attraction from their ONE AND ONLY meeting so far?

She was open.....was honest......and was STRAIGHT UP with the OP,not leading him on,flaking,or playing games.

She was up for going out and seeing if the two of them clicked on a romantic level.....they went out and she only felt a "friendly" vibe...and SAID SO.


She flat out said she didn't feel any sexual attraction,so how's he supposed to have sex with her? Doesn't make any sense,dude. :confused:


OP......let her go. You want sexual interest,she said she's only up for being friends,so let it go. She was straight with you,so YOU BE straight with her. I'd just tell her I'm kinda looking for a bit more than friendship,thank her for being honest,wish her well,then go on to the next girl.

Personally,I wish ALL WOMEN were just like her.
I don't have to read the OP's post to get it. Anything over two paragraphs is too long. Pump n dump goes with everything. It's like the new Guile's theme.
 

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caught inside said:
Because I work 80-100+ hours a week I don't get out very much.

I try to set up a second date and her response was she wanted to be honest and only got a "friend vibe" between us and would def. hang out again as long as I'm ok with that. I'm not even upset but I want know how do you respond? total silence?
I think I mentioned it before, but I would say

"I can agree to hanging out as friends, as long as we can have sex at the end of the date."
 

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Say "Okay no problem" but decline the activity that you two would be doing as "friends." Let her know you aren't interested in that. And walk away/let her contact you. There's not much else to do.
 

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"That's OK we can get to know each other better and who knows I'm not looking for anything serious too fast .. up to you I'm happy either way".

Framing this in such a way that you're not looking for a girlfriend but a potential fvck buddy at first, and that you don't care too much anyway. In other words treating it as a sh!t test.

If there is another date make sure you escalate towards sex.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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