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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

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Got flaked because I am sexual!

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I have a gf but I met another girl at the mall she was with her sister , she is 18 and her sister is 26 ( she work with me), I got some intense eye contact with her talked to her then got her phone number , then we fixed a date 5 days later the date was very good and I kino her and she was enjoying it BUT yesterday I tried to call her 2 times she didn't reply! today her sister came to me and told me that her sister don't want to see me anymore because I am too sexual and she don't feel safe around me wtf! she was enjoying touching me!! honestly I am little bit confused and mad :cuss: I don't care about the girl but I don't want her sister to think I am a jerk it will ruin my reputation at work!
And yea when her sister told me this I told her that I don't care and that her sister was enjoying her time with me.
 

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she was probably attracted to you, but she was scared of you too. and that fear overrode that attraction.

you gotta know wut type of girl your dealing with. some might be open and sexual, and some might be shy and sweet.

but i honestly don't think you could've done anything to change this outcome, unless you knew wut type of girl she was b4 u talked to her.
 

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So whats your plan of action Rash? I think the most effective method in this case would be to actually act normal at work, or where ever you are likely to meet her again. This form of behaviour will strike a better note, she may feel more comfortable with you knowing that your ok with it, and it didnt really mean anything. She might even dig more of it?

But anyway dude. I just recently broke things off with my girl, i was with her for 2 years, im pretty wounded atm. Foolin around with other girls is pretty $hitty man. Not very alpha.
 

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Sexual and sensual aren't entirely the same thing; remember that. Sexual means recognizing that you are the man and she is the woman. Sensual, on the other hand, means kino, kissing, intercourse, etc.

Don't worry about what these girls think of you, tho. If you get the reputation of being a jerk, that'll probably just make you more appealing. Besides, if you're cheating on your girlfriend, you ARE a jerk.
 

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Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Well I am acting normal at work with the girl's sister like nothing happened, but I cant deny that by doing this she raised my IL in her!, as for my gf we are not in a long term relationship.
Anyway today I thought about it and I am not gonna change my strategy.

Crazy Asian said:
but i honestly don't think you could've done anything to change this outcome, unless you knew wut type of girl she was b4 u talked to her.
yea with every new girl you meet you are taking a risk, win or lose!
 

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You said you "talked a little" and after 5 days you go on a date where you start to kino her.

Maybe you were taking things too fast without building any actual rapport.
 

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Have you ever hear " DO NOT FUK WITH ANYBODY YOU WORK WITH!"

Regardless of the situation, trust me on that one dont.


btw, this girl was just using you for some attention
 

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Rash, how did you kino her?


I'm wondering if you could take things from this one as constructive criticism.



Something makes me think you touched her a55, then titties, then fingered her in a restaurant. Let me know what you done to the girl? What kind of kino was it? Where did you touch, and how did you touch (back and force, or just put your hand there)?


With that said, some chicks are especially retarded. 18 and younger, like 16 and 17. They'd give you tons of IOIs, enough for fclose. But you gotta be careful with that, deep down they know you're old (26), and at some level they feel guilty afterwards. You gotta be her older brother if you doing more than one date. Otherwise isolate and escolate and fclose, before she starts feeling guilty.
 

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Stuntmann said:
Rash, how did you kino her?


I'm wondering if you could take things from this one as constructive criticism.



Something makes me think you touched her a55, then titties, then fingered her in a restaurant. Let me know what you done to the girl? What kind of kino was it? Where did you touch, and how did you touch (back and force, or just put your hand there)?


With that said, some chicks are especially retarded. 18 and younger, like 16 and 17. They'd give you tons of IOIs, enough for fclose. But you gotta be careful with that, deep down they know you're old (26), and at some level they feel guilty afterwards. You gotta be her older brother if you doing more than one date. Otherwise isolate and escolate and fclose, before she starts feeling guilty.
yea thats what I think after things cooled down she felt guilty! and no no lol I didnt touch her a55 or tits I am not that bold, I just touched her sides (ribs) kissed her on the neck while playing with her hair and we kissed (Not deep french kisses).

BAMBU said:
Have you ever hear " DO NOT FUK WITH ANYBODY YOU WORK WITH!"
she is not the one working with me, her sister is my coworker.
 

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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

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Sounds like an excuse. She can say that and not feel guilty about flaking you. Makes her sound sorta like a "victim." At least, thats my opinion.
 

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That's a ****ed up thing to do to your girlfriend man... Seriously...
 

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Rash, I've got two theories.


A) She and her older sister are playing you. They know you're a player and they are just having a little fun.


B) Her older sister is into you, so the younger sister let her have you.




In either case the older sister raises your IL later on, by you can't have that. I think you should keep up your high value, don't game the older sister, but keep sensual eye contact with her, and do tell her she'd make a nice friend. Mixed messages. Because you can game her later on.

The only approach to the younger one is to wait until she makes contact with you.



In both cases, they want you to fail. Big deal, most women want men to fail. So keep up the high value, be like the best man on the block. That way they have no choice but to run back.
 

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Dude_man123 said:
Sounds like an excuse. She can say that and not feel guilty about flaking you. Makes her sound sorta like a "victim." At least, thats my opinion.
I very much agree... Its likely she was just bailing.

She was probably also telling the truth about you being too sexual, however it wouldn't have been a problem if she WANTED to be sexual with you. But she obviously don't and shes backing out low-conflict (regardless if she kissed you etc).... Does her sister/your co-worker know you have a gf?
 

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Crazy Asian said:
she was probably attracted to you, but she was scared of you too. and that fear overrode that attraction.
Or was she afraid of herself (her possible actions)????

Just something to consider....
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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