"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Got a date with a girl this Saturday: I want to try something new

Shivastorm_88

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Note: One of the reason why I want to try this is, this girl is LTR material.

Before my LTR, my M.O. was pretty much bring a girl to a bar, drink one or two pitchers with her, and bring her back home.

However, this time I want to build anticipation. I want to show girls into my world, make them do stuff I enjoy, but not go for sex right away. Make them crave it.

So I'm thinking waiting a few dates before trying anything. I might go for kiss close after the first or second date, but I'll probably wait till the third or fourth before trying for ****-close

So the date is, we are going to do hot yoga, followed by brunch, on Saturday morning. After brunch, I'll probably eject, but if things are going very well, I might take her to a special spot.

For any of you guys that have tried this method in the past, tips and suggestions?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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j.619

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What's the point of waiting? I see that as wasting time, unless there's a greater goal that you haven't mentioned. You're doing it just for the sake of trying something different? I think you should just feel her out and see how receptive she is to your advances. If she wants to fvck after some hot-ass yoga, why not? This girl LTR potential?
 

Shivastorm_88

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j.619 said:
What's the point of waiting? I see that as wasting time, unless there's a greater goal that you haven't mentioned. You're doing it just for the sake of trying something different? I think you should just feel her out and see how receptive she is to your advances. If she wants to fvck after some hot-ass yoga, why not? This girl LTR potential?
Yeah, she definitely is. We used to work together, she got a new job. We share a bunch of common interests, which is a rare occurrence for me in this day and age.

Should have mentioned that in my original post
 

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Shivastorm_88 said:
Note: One of the reason why I want to try this is, this girl is LTR material.

Before my LTR, my M.O. was pretty much bring a girl to a bar, drink one or two pitchers with her, and bring her back home.

However, this time I want to build anticipation. I want to show girls into my world, make them do stuff I enjoy, but not go for sex right away. Make them crave it.

So I'm thinking waiting a few dates before trying anything. I might go for kiss close after the first or second date, but I'll probably wait till the third or fourth before trying for ****-close

So the date is, we are going to do hot yoga, followed by brunch, on Saturday morning. After brunch, I'll probably eject, but if things are going very well, I might take her to a special spot.

For any of you guys that have tried this method in the past, tips and suggestions?

You essentially read my mind.

I also have a date this Saturday (HB 8 w/ a great body). We've been talking throughout the week and when we go out I want her to become enamored with me and see how well-rounded/desirable I am. Like you said I want her to "crave it".

It's all a part of my plan of becoming The Most Interesting Man In the World.
 

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This is not going to be a popular idea on this forum, but I do think there's something to be said for building anticipation (as an option). This concept has been largely ridiculed here in recent years, but if you check out Anti-Dump he actually advocates no kiss on the first date.

It depends on the situation, but sometimes I will slow things down when I know things are going well. Sometimes I like to savor the experience, instead of just unwrapping all the presents in a great big hurry all at once. Then what is there left to look forward to? This can be hard to do, because despite the fact that I am ideal "boyfriend" and "provider" material, usually women can't wait to do the deed with me ASAP. I say that not to brag, just to point out that real life doesn't always fit the mold of what they tell you here on SoSuave.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I wholeheartedly disagree with the OP's strategy.
Women want to be swept off their feet and taken by a masculine man.
I think you run the risk of coming across as a pvssy if you intentionally hold back.
There are hundreds of stories on the forum (and thousands more untold) lamenting a woman's sudden loss of interest because the man wasn't sexually aggressive enough.
Women expect a man to make a move and are suspicious of those who don't. As a general rule.
 

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A good experiment. I've missed out on too many opportunities in the past because I pussed out and didn't make a move.

As long as she sees you as a guy with value, it should work. She might start to rationalize why you haven't made a move to save her ego. "Oh, he's too much of a pvssy, time to find a real man."

Or it really could work. I have no idea. I'm interested to see how this goes.
 

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If i've learned anything from my current situation its to eject even if its going well. As tempting as it is to stay, she may see your time as too accessible or get bored quicker.
 

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Just going to make a comment that I LOVE what you said about showing her "your world". This is the thing that has given me the most success at this. When I was an AFC back in the day, it was the girl that was making the plans... BIG MISTAKE! Now, I lead, I make the plans. Goes alot better that way! And it's amazing how they react! I know the best spots, restaurants, etc.., so now I become the "go to guy". they react to that stuff real well and its easy way to get the goods!
 

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Shivastorm_88 said:
Note: One of the reason why I want to try this is, this girl is LTR material.

Before my LTR, my M.O. was pretty much bring a girl to a bar, drink one or two pitchers with her, and bring her back home.

However, this time I want to build anticipation. I want to show girls into my world, make them do stuff I enjoy, but not go for sex right away. Make them crave it.

So I'm thinking waiting a few dates before trying anything. I might go for kiss close after the first or second date, but I'll probably wait till the third or fourth before trying for ****-close

So the date is, we are going to do hot yoga, followed by brunch, on Saturday morning. After brunch, I'll probably eject, but if things are going very well, I might take her to a special spot.

For any of you guys that have tried this method in the past, tips and suggestions?
ABC - Always Be Closing

There's something to be said for creating anticipation but too much and she begins to wonder if you're gay or you just want to be friends. If you're going to go this route you need to be teasing, kinoing, and flirting like crazy with alot of pullback.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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