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Got a call from a girl who's nexted me?

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Wow, I get home tonight and I check my phone and I have a voicemail. I thought it would be my mom or my dad but lo and behold it was a girl :crazy: A girl who I've been out on one date with on 10/27 that I haven't seen since. A girl that I've left voicemails for on 10/30 and 11/01. I even think she sent me directly to voicemail on the 1st, it only rang twice. The only contact I've ever had from her was when she texted me her new cell number, she then ignored the text I replied with and the one I sent the next day. I erased her number from my phone on the 1st and forgot about her.

Her message said basically said "Hey it's me xxx do you remember me xxx? Well I was sick so I couldn't call you that day I saw your message but I couldn't because I moved, I had tests, got sick, all the problems together. What I"m doing now is trying to get better. I just called you to see if your ok or not. I'm sorry I couldn't call you before but now I made the time to call you and I hope that you are doing good. Give me a call if you get this message, bye."

Her tone of voice sounded like she was tired and apologetic. Frankly I'm stunned. The angry and bitter part of me wants to forget about her and delete the message, blowing any chance I may ever have with her. The horny part of me wants to fuck her, literally. I got no idea what to do.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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She's full of shit (likely bored/out of other options), but you have an 'in'.

You can either pursue it, run game, and possibly hit it or you can be emotional and have no chance of getting any. Your choice
 

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dude why the hell would you get angry and delete her number anyway? you made a huge assumption way to quickly, when you do talk to her act like you didnt even notice her not getting back with you, and next time don't take that stuff so seriously
 

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Serialized3 said:
She's full of shit (likely bored/out of other options), but you have an 'in'.

You can either pursue it, run game, and possibly hit it or you can be emotional and have no chance of getting any. Your choice
Thats why I posted this thread. I think she is bored or as you said just plain full of shit. But the possibility of hitting it is all I can think of. At this point the only thing I want from her is sex. Any advice on what I can say that boost my chances?

steveoo5 said:
dude why the hell would you get angry and delete her number anyway? you made a huge assumption way to quickly, when you do talk to her act like you didnt even notice her not getting back with you, and next time don't take that stuff so seriously
Uh why would I keep the number of a chick that I haven't spoken to in over a week, who choose not to respond to my voicemails and texts? And yes I am getting too emotional over this. This is making me think way too hard.
 

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Maxtro said:
Thats why I posted this thread. I think she is bored or as you said just plain full of shit. But the possibility of hitting it is all I can think of. At this point the only thing I want from her is sex. Any advice on what I can say that boost my chances?
Like Steveoo5 said, just play it off like it didn't bother you, don't even bring the fact that she didn't call you back up, and just run as solid game as you can. You know how to game women, right? (Hint: display excellence and sexuality)

Uh why would I keep the number of a chick that I haven't spoken to in over a week, who choose not to respond to my voicemails and texts? And yes I am getting too emotional over this. This is making me think way too hard.
I remember back when I would get frustrated if a girl flaked out on me. But there are many reasons it happens, all the way from not being very interested, to not being 'in state', to being busy, to being sick, as far as just playing games trying to get higher value or whatever goes on in those hamster wheels.

Anyway, I see so many guys that just give up at the first snag in the fishing line. Like whatever basketball player said "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take" (MJ?), you have nothing to lose by continuing to pursue a girl that's gone a little cold on you.

Of course, don't be a creep or a tool: if she keeps flaking and playing games, cut your loss and chalk it up to experience.
 

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Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Ok good advice Serialized3, thanks. I won't even bring it up. As for my game, I have little, hence the reason I've posted this thread. All I got know is a lot of text "knowledge."

I realize that there are a lot of reasons for her to flake but I assumed that no contact for almost two weeks meant there was no hope or even a point. Your right that I have nothing to loose. I don't care if she wouldn't want to see me again or be my friend :rolleyes: I had moved on. But the reward can be good. Too good to pass up. I can always use more experience.
 

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Her message said basically said "Hey it's me xxx do you remember me xxx? Well I was sick so I couldn't call you that day I saw your message but I couldn't because I moved, I had tests, got sick, all the problems together. What I"m doing now is trying to get better. I just called you to see if your ok or not. I'm sorry I couldn't call you before but now I made the time to call you and I hope that you are doing good. Give me a call if you get this message, bye."

Her tone of voice sounded like she was tired and apologetic
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Dude forget her. She just does not want you to be angry at her, she can't stand people not liking her which is why she wants you to phone her.

Nothing in the message that says "lets go out this Saturday" or "lets meet up for lunch"

"I just called to see your ok?" That's something your sister or mom would say, not a girl that wants to sleep with you.
 

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DonJuan11 said:
Dude forget her. She just does not want you to be angry at her, she can't stand people not liking her which is why she wants you to phone her.

Nothing in the message that says "lets go out this Saturday" or "lets meet up for lunch"

"I just called to see your ok?" That's something your sister or mom would say, not a girl that wants to sleep with you.
Why would she care if some dude she has only seen a few times and went out with her once would be mad about her? If anything I thought she simply forgot that I existed.

Yes it is true that she made no indication of wanting to meet up. But, I am the man and if I want to bang her then I need to make the effort to arrange a meet up. I'm thinking about calling her tomorrow and arranging an impromptu lunch or meeting for coffee. If she says no and doesn't make an offer for a different day, next! If she says yes, I'll try to be as sexual as I can be. If I don't fuck her or even kiss her that day then, next!
 

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If it were me I'd just text back saying "I'm good, thanks. Hope you feel better :)" or something like that.

That way you don't ignore her yet still sound cool, collected and indifferent. If she keeps texting you after that or initiates something, then you know you've got a decent shot. Otherwise she's not worth it imo.
 

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Jaxon said:
If it were me I'd just text back saying "I'm good, thanks. Hope you feel better :)" or something like that.

That way you don't ignore her yet still sound cool, collected and indifferent. If she keeps texting you after that or initiates something, then you know you've got a decent shot. Otherwise she's not worth it imo.

You're right. I think I have to learn more from you too.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I have gone Jaxon's route, but it was with a woman I Loved and Really wanted to keep my options open with. If you're not really really attracted to this one, don't give her the time of day. Fvck her, and don't respond. They Do want you to not be "mad" at them even if you've just met them. It's all apart of her attraction scheme. If she's the kind that gets sick all the time, you might want to steer clear of her, else your health might be affected, and your potential childrens' health.
 

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IMO she has thrown me a line. If I want to get something out of her then I need to make a move and to meet with her.
wutangfinancial said:
you make the same mistake as me-having low self esteem, and assuming the girl isn't interested. I'm really pulling for you man, i want you to get this girl...you deserve it.
I assumed that she wasn't interested in me because we've gone almost two weeks with out seeing each other or even talking on the phone. And thank you
Poonani Maker said:
I have gone Jaxon's route, but it was with a woman I Loved and Really wanted to keep my options open with. If you're not really really attracted to this one, don't give her the time of day. Fvck her, and don't respond. They Do want you to not be "mad" at them even if you've just met them. It's all apart of her attraction scheme. If she's the kind that gets sick all the time, you might want to steer clear of her, else your health might be affected, and your potential childrens' health.
I don't have strong feelings for her, thats called oneitis and it's bad :nono: I do want to fuck her and nothing else. The last time I talked to her she said she was planning on moving back to L.A. at the end of December. Ideally I would love to consistently bang her until then.

I don't think anybody would care if somebody who've they only spoken to a few times in the past and haven't even talked two in two weeks, is mad at them.

Potential children? :crazy:
 

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Well I just called her and she sounded bad. She apologized for not calling, I didn't bring it up, she did and she told me that she got really sick and that she had to move and other problems happened. I showed no signs of disappointment or resentment.

I suggested that we meet up for coffee tomorrow but she declined cause she doesn't know how she would feel. I'm glad cause if I saw her I'd want to start making out and then I would catch whatever she's got. She said that she had fun the last time we went out and she wants to go out again with me. I told her to call me when she is feeling well. She said she would. I ended with hope you're felling better and a bye.

I'm going to call her in a few days to see how she is doing, if she doesn't call me before then. Her interest level seemed high.

I wonder if I can turn this into a lay somewhere down the line.
 

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Maxtro said:
Well I just called her and she sounded bad. She apologized for not calling, I didn't bring it up, she did and she told me that she got really sick and that she had to move and other problems happened. I showed no signs of disappointment or resentment.

I suggested that we meet up for coffee tomorrow but she declined cause she doesn't know how she would feel. I'm glad cause if I saw her I'd want to start making out and then I would catch whatever she's got. She said that she had fun the last time we went out and she wants to go out again with me. I told her to call me when she is feeling well. She said she would. I ended with hope you're felling better and a bye.

I'm going to call her in a few days to see how she is doing, if she doesn't call me before then. Her interest level seemed high.

I wonder if I can turn this into a lay somewhere down the line.
good thing you didn't just next her then

you dont really lose anything (except some time and possibly pride if it turns out she is stringing you along out of guilt) by pursuing her
 

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Actually I did next her, but she called me out of nowhere so I, uh unnexted her? :crazy:

I got nothing to loose. This all a learning experience for me with a chance of a sweet reward. Even if she is playing me, it's still better than no interaction with females.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Maxtro said:
Even if she is playing me, it's still better than no interaction with females.
I have to disagree with you there. Play this one out and see what happens. But in general, there's nothing worse than allowing yourself to be played and strung along, especially if you know what's happening.

You actually get more from cutting your losses and walking away from a girl who is playing you. It reinforces your confidence, you know that one girl isn't everything and your time is better spent with women who want to be with you. Then when the next one comes along it gets easier to establish your own frame immediately and not get drawn into hers.

Good luck in any case. :cool:
 

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LOL I'm lost. That will probably make more sense to me once I get more experience on my belt.

And thanks.
 

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steveoo5 said:
dude why the hell would you get angry and delete her number anyway? you made a huge assumption way to quickly, when you do talk to her act like you didnt even notice her not getting back with you, and next time don't take that stuff so seriously
Best reply out of them all...

I never really understood why people would just next girls over the slightest things. You NEVER know what can be happening in the girls life. Maybe she has a boyfriend who lives with her, maybe she has very protective parents, maybe she was on a vacation, maybe a car accident.

Why get mad about a flake...o yea because "You wanted to have sex with her". Stop fiending so much about the sex and enjoy the process.

YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE when calling girls over and over. Heck you can call girls months and years later and try to meet up, it doesn't matter. So what if she flakes you should have other options.

Stop focusing and anayzling so deeply on one girl.
 

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Jaxon said:
If it were me I'd just text back saying "I'm good, thanks. Hope you feel better :)" or something like that.

That way you don't ignore her yet still sound cool, collected and indifferent. If she keeps texting you after that or initiates something, then you know you've got a decent shot. Otherwise she's not worth it imo.
This is the best answer. Do it.

Also, you never would have this problem if you were going for MORE THAN ONE FVCKING GIRL. Damn. You posted this because she is pretty much your only option and you're desperate for sex. You said it yourself.
 

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The reason I nexted her was based on the cumulative advice that I've read on this board and others like it. I had then decided to move on and now it seems that moving on from a girl that showed signs of low interest is now a bad thing...?

I never told her how it made me feel or shown any signs of weakness. I'm better than that now. Thats why I posted this thread. To get other peoples opinions on the matter before I made my move. And I am very grateful to have other people commenting. Thanks to the advice here I may still have a shot, which I would not have I fallowed my gut instinct.

The reason that I keep brining up that I want to have sex with her is obvious. Also I don't want to be her friend, nor do I want an LTR. I have not yet made my intentions clear with her but I will try to put on more of a sexual vibe the next time I'm with her.

Interesting point about being able to call up girls months and years later and try to meet up with them. There are a couple of girls who's numbers I wish I still had, but I deleted them from my phone because I got mad :( I should get a "little black book" and just put all the inactive numbers (girls I don't plan on calling for a while) in it.

There are other girls that I'm pursuing but this one I've made the most progress. Even if I get this girl I will still go after the other chicks.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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